Outlaws: Episode 12, The Minutemen - 05/27/2026
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This episode of Outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack examines the rise and fall of the 2000s-era Minuteman border watch movement, contrasting its patriotic branding and “neighborhood watch” rhetoric with the racial, demographic, and political tensions that actually fueled it. The hosts walk through the historical Minutemen of the American Revolution, the 1990s–2000s immigration surge and post‑9/11 security climate, media and NGO attacks on the Minutemen, and the movement’s refusal to speak candidly about race. They then dissect multiple scandals involving Minuteman leaders (including murder, child sexual abuse, and botched “vigilante” operations) as case studies in catastrophic leadership failure, arguing for strict vetting, honesty about racial motivations, and higher standards in any future “cause.” The stream closes with an extended super chat segment on white advocacy groups, fraud cases, genetics, parenting, and political identity.Intro
00:03:53 You're watching Outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.Devon Stack
00:04:02 all right. right, finally, my little things knew I forgot to do something. I had to reboot my computer a few times, so that we, and hopefully people can hear me and hear you. I'm assuming they can.Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:16 Yeah, let me know the live chat if you can't.Devon Stack
00:04:18 Yeah, my little thing's broken that I use now, of course, because everything breaks.Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:23 Oh, it's okay, work on that, and I'll tell a little story about what just happened. Yeah, Devon, I've just had to sit here helplessly because Devon's just like yelling the AV node port four, or I'm like, I have no fucking clue what you're talking about, but I do know that it is miraculous that he got whatever he just got fixed, because I was sure that we were just gonna have to reschedule, which wouldn't be a big deal. It's not a big deal. One of it always seems to pull it off. He always pulls it off in like the 11th hour.Devon Stack
00:04:54 Wow, like I said, 28 minutes after the 11th hour. You knowRebecca Hargraves
00:04:58 that's00:04:58 okay. That's not a big deal, yeah. Audience just had to chill, they're still getting a show, and you know it's gonna go a little bit later, that nobody's mad,
Devon Stack
00:05:05 thatRebecca Hargraves
00:05:06 is true00:05:07 to like full mom mode, like I'm so proud of you for fixing that problem. Welcome to Outlaws, I'm Rebecca Hargraves,
Devon Stack
00:05:16 and I am Devon Stack, and yeah, we are, we're live, but the way we have it set up, the way we can have our zero latency back and forth, even though we're both in different locations, it's a little convoluted the way the the virtual drivers are set up, and they got corrupted or something, and it created a mess before the show, but now it's all straighten out, and we got a good show, show for you, we, we thought it'd be a good idea to revisit something that many of you, well, some of you will probably remember, and some of you might not, because this was, well, now it's been like 20 years since this was kind of a well, not quite, yeah, about 20 years,Rebecca Hargraves
00:06:00 they had a wide span, they were for a long time,Devon Stack
00:06:03 but this is a project that, if you, you might remember in the, in well, this started in Bush's last, or his final term before Obama, but the Minute Man Project, the Minute Man Project, the, as the left would describe it, a bunch of vigilante boomers that were going to the border to shoot Mexicans, which would have been super based. It's alwaysRebecca Hargraves
00:06:27 only half of that is true,Devon Stack
00:06:28 right? Well, the leftist description of the right is, I don't you wish you lived in that worldRebecca Hargraves
00:06:34 like I know all the time everyone's racist, everyone's sexist, we indiscriminately kill people. Awesome,Devon Stack
00:06:41 I wish they wrote the script of, like, instead of writing the history books. I wish they wrote, like, what was happening now. Like, I wish the way they described reality was actually what was happening. But, yeah, this is another case of, you know, largely exaggerated. It was, you know, it was mostly, mostly peaceful, I guess you could say there were some incidents, but for the most part it was like a neighborhood watch. But before we get into that, let's switch to our little, our little video thing, right? Let's see here. Hey, and the wipes not there, so there was no delay, because I forgot the wipe got broke too, apparently. All right, soRebecca Hargraves
00:07:21 Devon, no one would have noticed that.Devon Stack
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Rebecca Hargraves
00:09:48 Oh my gosh, yeah. Use the code Outlaws for 10% off your order. I wonder if there's something in our clause about our ads not being creepy. I didn't see anything. I didn't see anything about that. I did interview Kurt Syde. Dell on Germany and Stalin's cross hairs, that book, and it went really well. It was really interesting. I have major gaps in my historical knowledge on Barbarossa and this specific event. So, if you're kind of a historical newbie and you don't know a ton about World War Two and you were propagandized, it's an excellent video. Check it out on my YouTube channel, Blonde the belly of the beast in my interview segment. Thank you, Devon, that was so cute.Devon Stack
00:10:27 Well, you know, I was going for creepy, so missionRebecca Hargraves
00:10:31 to come, little tail, his little tail was going like this,Devon Stack
00:10:33 he was dancing around, little psychotic smile on his face, thinking about Hitler as he danced about, so but anyway,00:10:42 we're here is
Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:43 one of those topics where it unfolded in a way that was completely different from what I was expecting, and I'm kind of disappointed, but there are greater lessons to be learned about this whole fiasco.Devon Stack
00:10:57 Well, yes, absolutely, because it was one of these things where, to be honest, I was thinking to myself, whatever happened to those guys, you know? Like, I remember hearing about them, and then you start to look into what happened to those guys, you're like, 'fuck, that's what happened. 00:11:12 I guess that's why we haven't heard of them, but I thought it was important to understand where the name comes from, the Minute Men, of course, if you're a founding stock American, you might be related to some of these people, but they were the the first line of defense against the British. They were a special elite group, I guess you could say, of colonial militia men during the American Revolutionary War, and mostly in Massachusetts, but they were, you know, they started out just like everyday people, like most militiamen, you know, they're ordinary farmers and tradesmen, townsmen who formed the militia as militias are formed today, or at least they should be, they're not, don't have quite the militias that we used to have, like, in the 80s.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:12:01 No, indeed,Devon Stack
00:12:02 we, we really should bring that back. And I'm not even kidding, like, we should bring, like, people got really scared because of, well, all the stuff that's impact on, like, all that stuff that happened, and I get it. But I think it's, it's gonna be necessary to bring some of that back. But you know, they weren't trained soldiers or anything like that, but they were hunters, they were people that were good with guns, and they pledged to show up in a moment's notice if the, if the British were to show up,Rebecca Hargraves
00:12:30 and they were highly organized and effective, everybody had a much higher baseline skill level back then, and there were no chicks, look at that, no women,Devon Stack
00:12:40 no chicks, and look, these are these are like, yeah, these were men that really literally carved their, their civilization out of the wilderness. These are the people who didn't just show up to live in a nice little suburban house next to a strip mall, like the the Indians that are poor, yeah, no h1 b1 or H 1b visa militia men here in the Minutemen, so these were all very, very alpha Chad founding stock Americans. 00:13:12 In fact, they were the first first people to, they fired the first shot in the Revolutionary War on april 19, 1775 at the Battle of Lexington, they were the first to confront the British troops marching in to seize the weapons of the colonists, and they fired the first shot, the shot heard around the world, and so it makes sense why this is the type of imagery that they wanted associated with their group. Sadly, they did not live up,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:13:50 yeah,Devon Stack
00:13:51 they did not live up to their, their mascot. But the Minutemen were, you know, unfortunately, the Minutemen project was made up of a different caliber of man, I guess you could say,Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:04 yeah, definitely.Devon Stack
00:14:05 But they started as a group that wanted to watch the southern border. Yeah, here's look at this. We went from these guys here to Fat Boomer with a camo T-shirt,Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:19 yeah,Devon Stack
00:14:19 that says Minuteman Project, you know, Team America. Yeah, literally says Team America. Anyway,Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:27 oh, good Lord, it's a little on the nose, right? Yeah, there was this bottleneck effect that was happening where there was one area in Arizona where like hundreds and hundreds of migrants would pass through daily, so some of the originators of this were trying to protect that part of the border, but they had all these chapters, they had like a chapter, inexplicably a chapter in Washington, and that's how this one chick that we're going to talk about was referred to the Arizona chapter, but there was no. Oversight, right? Yeah, itDevon Stack
00:15:02 was pretty, pretty decentralized to some extent, but yeah, the context was the immigration, obviously has been bad forever. They, the American people, have been, and by the way, even Democrats, there was a time before Democrats were completely, you know, race-cut, where unions, for example, didn't want high immigration, because that took away jobs from union workers, and so that even the union workers, in fact, 00:15:33 Bernie Sanders used to be really against open borders, and not so much these days, so you had like a flood of immigrants coming into the country, especially after NAFTA in the 90s, and in, you know, going this is 2005 so leading up to 2005 you had about a million, a million, that's a lot, a million apprehensions, and that's apprehension, so that's not that's not the people slipping through, because you got to think about it, if they're catching a million, how many of them are they not catching, how many people are actually slipping through the cracks, and so they had a million per year, pretty much all throughout the 90s, and you know this number that you always hear thrown around, like, oh, there's 11 million illegals, they were saying that
Rebecca Hargraves
00:16:21 25 years,Devon Stack
00:16:22 right? They were saying that in the 90s, while a million a year were coming in during the 90s, and the peak of this was 1.6 million in the year 2000Rebecca Hargraves
00:16:35 Good Lord, yeah, that's always a metric. I don't care, I didn't care about them, like illegals. I want to know how many not first generation non-whites are in this country,Devon Stack
00:16:45 right? No, and that's, but that's, you know, honestly, that's something that people cared about. Then they just wouldn't talk about, unfortunately, that's not how they would frame it, but that you were having racial anxiety, you were having people notice the demographics of their area was changing, especially in states like California, and you know, a lot of that was Reagan giving amnesty to all the illegals in California. So basically, California turned blue overnight,Rebecca Hargraves
00:17:12 but they wouldn't touch it from a racial perspective. Everybody just scapegoated the illegal immigrant problem, but made all these caveats about legal, legal immigrants, like that's going to make a difference, and nobody addressed this in the 90s or early aughts as a racial, specifically as a racial issue.Devon Stack
00:17:30 Well, people did, but they were not people that got air time, for sure, people that you wouldn't hear from, because they were, well, Jews would keep them off TV, basically.Rebecca Hargraves
00:17:40 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:17:41 so, yeah, it was never framed as a racial issue, despite the demographics being fucked in California, Arizona, Texas, and the federal government didn't care, especially, you know, in fact I would say, especially Republicans, because the Chamber of Commerce and all the business interests that funded a lot of these Republican candidates wanted, wanted the cheap labor, like with Trump, now with the hotel workers, and the, yeah, and not even just the Indians, but like the hotel workers, farm workers, you know, he, the one of the big reasons why Trump, well, Trump just doesn't care about white people, but one of the reasons why he'll never, never do the mass deportations like people were envisioning is because all of his buddies, they hire illegals,Rebecca Hargraves
00:18:33 yeah, of course,Devon Stack
00:18:34 they hire illegals, and so this is something that's been going on since forever, and so this was going on all throughout the 90s, you know, they also had one of the.. this was an excuse that was used, but post 911 because they talked about how, oh, you know, terrorists, and I noticed this after 911 on Fox News, a lot of these immigration hawks would suddenly start trying to use 911 as an excuse to close the border. Well, we have to close the border, because we don't know when Habib with a bomb strapped to his ass is going to come sneaking across.Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:10 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:19:10 and they still kind of do that. You still kind of hear that rhetoric, like I remember during the first Trump administration, that was a big talking point that even I think Stephen Miller and people like that would say, like, oh, well, whenever, knowing someone from Iran is gonna come and kill all the Jews or something like that, was gonna, yeah, andRebecca Hargraves
00:19:28 then when I was doing research for the show, I heard a lot of people say NMA, the NMAs, the non-Mexican aliens, and they were talking about how worried they are about, like, Polish migrants, I'm like, shut, shut up, nobody cares about that, and everything's under the guise of Al Qaeda. What if Al Qaeda comes through our southern border? It's like, no, we're worried about brown people. I don't care if they're from Argentina or Brazil or Guatemala or Mexico. Like, no, but people wouldn't touch it during this era, even some of these men. The most, the minimum.Devon Stack
00:20:02 Well, you got to remember Bush, especially his, his brother Jeb, is married to a Mexican.Rebecca Hargraves
00:20:08 Oh, that's right, a tiny, fat, really weird-looking Mexican,Devon Stack
00:20:12 right? As they often,Rebecca Hargraves
00:20:14 so weird,Devon Stack
00:20:14 they often turn to after, after like 29 every Mexican turns weird and fat and short, so yeah, there, this was this was something that was ongoing. They tried to use the 911 excuse. Wages were being suppressed, because I mean, obviously, if a farmer can hire 50 people at $2 an hour, they're going to do that instead of hiring a couple white guys and trying to streamline their operation, or I don't know, work on their own fucking farm, you know, like, like farmers used to, so all the low-skilled sectors really suffered. 00:20:52 You also had the public schools were overrun. I mean, this was something I experienced. I went to public school in California when I was a kid, and it was like, you know, like our teacher spent more time with the brown kids that spoke seven different languages, trying to catch them up to speed, like we didn't do anything, like the white kids just sat around fucking being bored all day, because you know, Lupe over there couldn't fucking pay attention, and you know, it was, it was fucking ridiculous, so you had all kinds of issues with the welfare system being strained, because, of course, especially in states like California, these illegals were getting welfare, the hospitals,
00:21:35 because the illegals, obviously, they don't have any kind of health care program with their, their employers, they just show up when they, you know, they accidentally saw their arm off, or whatever, or shoot each other, and so you have like the emergency rooms, and then they don't, they don't pay their bill because they don't have any kind of ID, and they just leave, and that just means your insurance goes up, because your insurance is paying for all these fucking illegals.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:21:59 Oh my gosh, yeah, my dad was head of ER in Albuquerque at Albuquerque Hospital, and the stories he would come home with about Mexicans injuring themselves, it's just astonishing, and so much drunk driving, like just incredible amount of,00:22:15 well,
Devon Stack
00:22:16 especially in Albuquerque, DWI was through the roof out there, Juan was juggling nail guns, and while drinking Michelob, and ended up in the hospital. So, yeah, there's a whole lot of that going on, and then people, again, this is, I think, one of these - I mean, it's a real issue, but I think it's one of these stupid things where the conservatives think they can connect with the left by saying, and it's bad for the environment, you know, like, look, they leave trash in the desert, and it's bad, and, like, like, liberals don't really fucking give a shit about the environment if it means that it promotes white genocide. I mean, they would, they would literally go around pouring antifreeze directly into a river if it meant that white people would die, you know, so that didn't really help out, and so you had these kinds of excuses going on. 00:23:06 Sometimes they would talk, and I've done streams about this, where they would talk about the language, like you had this, as I remember, like Bill O'Reilly saying stuff like, "Well, they just need to learn English. I'm tired of pressing one to get English when I use the ATM, and whatever, like, that was the big issue, you know, or like, I
Rebecca Hargraves
00:23:22 don't have a problem, a problem with Mexicans, it's that people aren't learning the culture, it's like they're not, they're Mexican, what do you, they're not going to learn the culture, they're not going to become American,Devon Stack
00:23:34 right, and that's that was the big issue, was people not understanding that culture is a product of biology, that they, it's not these, we're not like these identical computers with different operating systems running, and all you have to do is, we'll just wipe the hard drive and install Windows 2000 on this Mexican, and he'll be fine. It's like, no, that's not how it works, like their culture is radically different, because their biology, the source of that culture is radically different, you know, like cultures weren't just, you know, God didn't just run around the world throwing cultures down from the sky, and then we got lucky and got the good one, you know, like these cultures came from us, they came from our, our DNA, and that's it's tied inseparably to our DNA, and this is something that we need to talk about more, and this something that they didn't talk about at all in the, in the early 2000sRebecca Hargraves
00:24:29 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:24:29 so Bush was also at the time talking about possibly doing some amnesty, you know, doing guest worker programs, so like the Republicans have been fucking over white people on this issue since forever, and in fact, I don't think they've ever done anything significant, or even really, I would say that definitively different than what Democrats have done over since 1965 like in terms of actually trying to control, I mean, they talk about it.00:25:00 Hmm,
00:25:00 but they haven't really made any headway whatsoever,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:25:06 so they all00:25:06 care about getting rich and about ruthless capitalism, which is absent racial ideology, which is why we see the same ship involved,
Devon Stack
00:25:15 right? Right. And I think that, and there's even today it's taken on kind of a libertarian, I guess, hue, but, but that's that's the same thing libertarianism is, I mean, that's, I guess that's almost like end game, it's it's it's just capitalism, it's extreme capitalism, it's that, in fact, if you really look at libertarianism, most, I mean, a true libertarian would be for open borders, you know.Rebecca Hargraves
00:25:43 Yes, yeah, yeah.00:25:45 Because the
00:25:45 assumption of libertarianism is that people operate with equal information, and if you're a stupid Mexican, then you're inherently at a disadvantage. So, that can't possibly be true. It's another philosophy totally absent a racial, racial hierarchy, or any kind of racial understanding.
Devon Stack
00:26:02 Yeah, in many ways it suffers the same fatal flaws that communism does, the assumption that all humans are exactly the same, and so we're just little machines that if you tweak a one little variable, just like changing a line of code, the program will reliably behave the way you expect, instead of realizing that we're dealing with biological entities that are quite frankly different species,Rebecca Hargraves
00:26:27 of course.Devon Stack
00:26:29 Bottom line, so that's the environment here. Here, I'm gonna play a short clip. This is not in the script, but this is a short clip of, I believe, a CNN story talking about the Minutemen project, and you'll see the one of the founders, Chris Simcox, talking about it.Reporter
00:26:47 Based in the legendary town of Tombstone, organizers expect as many as 1500 volunteers stationed at intervals along 50 miles of the Mexico-Arizona border. They will attempt to detect and report anyone crossing illegally,Chris Simcox
00:27:01 we're a neighborhood watch group, nothing more than a neighborhood watch group who were doing nothing but what the President and the Department of Homeland Security ask Americans to do,Devon Stack
00:27:12 and by that he means he's referencing the see something, say something that I believe Janet Napolitano really hammered during the Obama administration, but the, the, yeah, if you see something, say something. So that essentially was what they were doing, is they were just like a neighborhood watch, they would go to the border, and if they saw illegals coming across through the desert, they'd get on their, their radios and rate and contact border patrol and tell on them, basically, they were00:27:41 just,
00:27:42 they would just tell ends, and then hopefully Border Patrol would do something. My understanding is, at first, in fact, Border Patrol actually didn't mind, and kind of appreciated it, and would respond often, and they did actually have a little bit of success. This is the other founder here, Jim
Rebecca Hargraves
00:28:03 Gil Chris, GilDevon Stack
00:28:05 Christ, I think it's they always say Gilchrist in the or when I hear or when they're doing the reports, but he, this is him at the press club, and he'll kind of give you an intro as to how, how the the the group came about.Jim Gilchrist
00:28:24 I'm James Gilchrist. I founded the Minute Man Project on october 1 last year with two specific goals in mind. Number one, to bring national awareness to the illegal alien invasion crisis, the open borders leaving us susceptible to terrorism. Secondly, was to show to prove up that physical presence on our borders, on our ports, both northern and southern borders, as well would effectively seal those borders from illicit activity, including drug importation, which counts to multi billions of dollars of transactions leaving our country every year, and those drugs end up being solicited to, in my case, a 16 year old nephew who's now addicted to drugs, has been in jail twice, doesn't have much of a life to look forward to, he was introduced to drugs and mid school, grammar school, the pre pre high school is one of millions we've been successful in both those, we proved that, and not only in 30 days, which we budgeted for this this program, we proved in 10 days we could effectively seal a 23 mile stretch of border with various numbers of volunteers ranging from 80 to 120 at any given time out of our inventory of 1022 the illegal alien invasion dropped the apprehensions dropped from dropped by all. Most 70 to 90% it varies. At one point during the month, it was a 90% drop, effectively as of the first 20 days of the operation. We succeeded in stopping at least 70% of this illegal activity.Devon Stack
00:30:18 And what's the one thing you notice, he didn't mentionRebecca Hargraves
00:30:24 race.Devon Stack
00:30:24 There you go, he didn't mention that being a factor.Rebecca Hargraves
00:30:28 Talk about his nephew too, you know, his nephew's sitting at home, like, 'God damn it, Uncle Jim, shut up, stop outing me. You probably just like to smoke weed, exactly.Devon Stack
00:30:37 No, but the other thing is, too, it will first of all, it did, it didn't look, it did have an impact, but I think the reason had an impact was the leftist rhetoric about, like, oh, there's a bunch of white guys that are gonna fucking shoot you if you cross the border, like in a way it kind of helped, because, like, Mexicans were like, "fuck, like, there'sRebecca Hargraves
00:30:55 a bunch ofDevon Stack
00:30:56 gringos out there, they're gonna fucking shoot us if we, if we cross the border.Rebecca Hargraves
00:31:00 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:31:00 so I think that that actually worked. I mean, I worked with when this was going on, I worked with Mexicans in the media, and they were afraid. They were afraid that they actually believed that, that there was a bunch of hillbillies out in the desert that we're gonna start just busted caps in and Mexicans, and I, which I thought was awesome, but this is a shorter clip. This is from Sim Cox, who was the other founder of the group.Chris Simcox
00:31:32 I am Chris Simcox. I'm the publisher, editor of the Tombstone Tumbleweed newspaper in Tombstone, Arizona, and the founder of civil homeland defense, a local neighborhood watch border watch effort that began in November of 2002 after discovering that Cochise County, Arizona was pretty much ground zero for the flood of illegals and drugs coming into the country, and and the numbers proved that last year in Cochise County, Border Patrol apprehended 239,000 people and 10s of 1000s of pounds of drugs, including marijuana and methamphetamine, which is a growing problem coming across the border, as well as cocaine, heroin, and now we find some weapons, illegal weapons transactions going on. Most of the weapons coming from the United States into Mexico.Devon Stack
00:32:29 Well, you know, I guess Operation Fast and Furious, possibly. Yeah, some of that was actually the ATF sending those weapons to Mexico, but anyway, so again, no mention of race. Talking about how you know it's guns, it's drugs, it's, and look, these are all valid points, but the thing is, those are all tied to race, you know, these are all symptoms,Rebecca Hargraves
00:32:57 and you know that there was some kind of focus group discussion before he goes on C-SPAN. Like, okay, well, we can't talk about race, we can talk about, like, the effects of race. If these guys were even racially aware, and honestly, through my research, I didn't see any evidence that they were.Devon Stack
00:33:12 I don't think they were necessarily, or at least if they were, they were very limp-wristed about it, but there were certainly some that were. But you know, alternatively, as we mentioned, like the leftists, you know, they, they didn't mind talking about race. This is a clip from a video put up with the ACLU, of course, Jews instantly, as soon as this, because it was working right, it was actually preventing illegals from coming across the border, because they thought they were gonna get sniped from, you know, 1000 yards off of the Desert Eagle or something, you know, and they, they, they're like, okay, well, we're gonna, we're gonna just not go across the border anymore, because I guess there's, you know, the Dukes of Hazzard, Hazard out there, gonna fucking gun us down, so the ACLU put out this video to, and they, of course, immediately address race.Minuteman 1
00:34:05 Whatever it takes to stop the flow of people coming across the border right now has to be done for the survival of America. Minuteman 3
00:34:12 We need to get them removed, because they're taking over our community as strangers from Mexico, and wherever else they come from.Mexican Translated
00:34:19 These fucking gringos won't let me just invade their country and rape their women. They are doing a racism.Minuteman 2
00:34:25 I think the American people are going to get fed up enough that they're going to begin taking00:34:30 vigilante style the law into their own hands.
Minutewoman 1
00:34:32 This particular group has to find immigrants as enemies.Mexicanette Translated
00:34:37 I just want stupid gringos to pay me to get fat and pop out 13 kids. Holy shit, I hate white people.Devon Stack
00:34:45 You have an issue with immigration policy, it should be settled in a different matter, but not taking arms and going to the border. Oh, yes, the Catholic Church involved, of course. But yeah, so they put out this video where they immediately do. Try to frame it as a race issue, which it was.Rebecca Hargraves
00:35:03 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:35:04 and that's the problem, is when you, you lie about what your position is, then you, you are always on the defense, because you're always trying to protect the lie, and your opponent knows you're lying, and so, and so, do you right, so it's easy to make you uncomfortable and get defensive and try to, like, you know, dance around, and we've all seen, look, we, we've all grown up watching debates with leftists, and you know, some conservative conservative on some news show, trying to, you know, so no, it's not about race, or it's not when it, when it clearly isRebecca Hargraves
00:35:44 right, and it puts you immediately in a defensive position, and once you get there, once you start defending yourself, you're totally screwed, there's no way out of that. If they would have just been like this is a racial thing, and then they would get called racist, and then there would be a discussion about why Mexicans can't be in this country, what's wrong with them? Everybody was just too afraid of being called racist. I think things are different now. We got a better shot,Devon Stack
00:36:07 and they00:36:07 got called racist anyway.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:36:09 Yeah, so what's the point?Devon Stack
00:36:11 Yeah, what's the point? I would rather be called a racist and just say, you know, and be like the, you know, the yes meme, and just like, yes, I am racist, and that's more defensible than trying to be like, because here's the thing. The second you start saying, well, no, what about like these, all these economic pos you know problems. First of all, economics is not sexy. 00:36:32 No one really fucking cares about that shit. And the second you say that, it's real easy for a leftist to try to come up with like some kind of economic reason why actually immigration is good, because it makes rich people richer, or whatever, but they dress it up, you know, you know, to look like something else, but they, they can, they can make the argument that it's good for the, the, the economy, right, they can, which, you know, you could make the argument that having a never-ending flow of consumers coming, flooding into an economy would somehow make rich people richer, and therefore the stock prices go up, and you know, so
Rebecca Hargraves
00:37:08 it's much00:37:08 harder to make an argument against Mexican crime and low IQ and cultural differences because of race. I mean, those are difficult issues for the left to attack.
Devon Stack
00:37:18 Well, right, and the thing is that is the issue, and in fact, here's the thing: if those differences didn't exist, we wouldn't have a problem. That's, that's the whole point, like the whole reason why it's not - it's not an esthetic thing. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think white people are better looking across the board, but that's not the reason that I want to live in a white country. I mean, it's maybe like on the list, but it's pretty low, right? And so it's like this, this - the actual reason is that they are not us, and there are measurable differences. IQ just being one of the things, and one reason why people bring up IQ is that it's something you can measure, you know? Like, it'sRebecca Hargraves
00:37:59 yeah, ourDevon Stack
00:38:00 minds are different in many other ways, but IQ is like a number you can point at that's, you know, pretty pretty consistent there.Rebecca Hargraves
00:38:07 That's a good point. I mean, the fact that we're having social problems and economic and cultural problems is evidence that we're different. I mean, they would just be able to seamlessly move within our society, and nothing really would have changed if they weren't fundamentally different,Devon Stack
00:38:24 right? No, there would be, there'd be no issue at all. In fact, I mean, if you look at historically what whites have done across the world, not just in North America, but including North America, when they first came to North America, the colonists essentially tried to convert the natives to Christianity and make them a part of the community, and then it spectacularly backfired every time, and the English Empire, same, excuse me, the British Empire, same thing everywhere, they would set up shop, they would attempt to interface with the locals in a way that had they been up to the same level, that would have been a fairly seamless operation, 00:39:06 but at the same time, the whole reason why the British Empire was able to expand is because these people weren't at the same level, like it's if they're at the same level, you would be able to just be like, okay, well, we own you now, like we're so we're so advanced that we can just with a small with one boat come in here and just own your entire country, because there's that much of a technological gap and an IQ gap.
00:39:33 So I mean it's it's it's absurd that we don't talk about this as the reason why we don't want immigration, and again, it's not just IQ, because if it was just IQ, then we'd want all the Chinese people in the world that we could get into the country to move
Rebecca Hargraves
00:39:51 here, of course,Devon Stack
00:39:52 and we don't want that either, because that's just that's just one metric, and the other things are just, we don't have, I mean, some we. Have some other metrics, but like we don't have the ability to really measure accurately yet. We will, especially with AI, the differences in our brains and what, how that affects outcomes. But anyway, so that's that's a that's the basic idea. You had a bunch of people that were sitting on the border and basically babysitting it and calling into the border patrol when they saw someone and not talking about race, even though the leftists were 100% aware of the race issue. Now, here's an example of what they were doing this. Is some footage of Chris Simcox actually stopping the group that was crossing the border?Chris Simcox
00:40:54 Vigilantes get00:40:57 you, man. I'll wait again. I told you, go somewhere else. Don't come here.
00:41:05 Well, another night under water.
Narrator
00:41:10 Gringo,Chris Simcox
00:41:12 don't be shy, guys. You'll be on my newspaper this week.Devon Stack
00:41:17 So they wereRebecca Hargraves
00:41:19 light. It would be so much cooler if he was just shooting them on site,Devon Stack
00:41:22 yeah. If you're just like throwing them on the ground and you know, execution style,Rebecca Hargraves
00:41:26 yeah.00:41:28 Come on, where's.. where's some of that? This was so unsatisfying, this research.. there was none of that,
Devon Stack
00:41:35 not well, there was a tiny bit of that a second. But so that's what they were doing, and of course, here's a ACLU Jew who swoops in to say that's actually false imprisonment, what he's doing, even though theseRebecca Hargraves
00:41:50 peopleDevon Stack
00:41:51 are illegally, you know, invading our country, and all he's doing is saying stop, and they're like, he's not making them stop, they're just doing it because they don't know what the fuck is going well. Actually, it's because the lesser races are aware that when a white man tells them what to do, there's just something in them that makes them want to obey, so they, they just, you know, they submit to the white man as is proper, and yeah, so but this is what the Jew has to say about all thisAtty. Rabinovitz
00:42:19 individual private citizen, if they go up to you and say stop, you can't move, you know that's an arrest, and whether it's, you know, this by pointing a gun, obviously, but even if it's not pointing a gun, if they stop you and say we're not going to let you leave, that's an arrest, that's an imprisonment, and there are torts for that, and they can be criminally prosecuted.Rebecca Hargraves
00:42:41 Choose, go to law school, God,Devon Stack
00:42:44 yeah. Well, without Jews, there would be no law schools.Rebecca Hargraves
00:42:47 That's true.Devon Stack
00:42:49 But yeah, anyway, so this is the kind of thing you had going on. You had it wasn't just the end of our ACLU, you had every Jew group imaginable spinning up their gears and to attack what they were doing, and trying to, in fact, they sent in like legal observers, which was funny, because it just made their.. it just made it harder for the Mexicans to get in, because now they saw even more people walking around with walkie talkies, because they couldn't tell the difference, you know? They just see a bunch of guys with walkie talkies,Rebecca Hargraves
00:43:22 yeah. Oh no, gringoDevon Stack
00:43:25 until they, yeah, they ran away, and, and, but, yeah, so, but they had these, these people that would, with cameras, that would try to catch the, the, the Minute Men doing something illegal, and whatnot, but yeah, they again never about race. The left knew it was about race. This guy knew it was about race.Jim Gilchrist
00:43:49 People who support the militarization of the border tend to take the nationalist argument that they're just protecting their country, protecting it from anybody who could be coming across, but when you sit down and talk to them a little bit more, and you try to analyze where their sentiments are coming from. You start seeing a little bit more rhetoric towards people from from the South, and when you start picking away at the surface, you get at the deeper core issue, which is the problem of the attitude towards people who are perceived to be different from themselves.Rebecca Hargraves
00:44:18 Wow, the top 1% of Mexicans correctly identifies the issue, although even he barely mentioned race. People that are different from this, we're talking about browns. Come on, buddy,Devon Stack
00:44:30 right? And it's funny because he said the perceived to be different. It's like, no, those perceptions are accurate, you know? Like, we perceive the color blue when things are blue, and we perceive that Mexicans are different because they're different, you know, and so, yeah, it's not just like it's not a delusion, it's a perception, and there's usually a source for those perceptions, although again, here's the sign on the screen here: illegals destroyed my beautiful dad, it's like, shut the go get a fucking. 00:45:00 Trash bag, then, like, if that's your big problem with Mexicans coming here, go start picking up trash, you fucking hag. Like, that would have been so much easier than patrolling the border, you know? Like, you could, you could clean up the desert in a weekend and you're done, you know? Like, give me a fucking break. So, but you know these guys would bend over backwards to avoid sounding like they were racist. Here's another guy. Here,
Bill Dore
00:45:26 securing the border, in my opinion, is one of the ways to secure the American way, and that's why I'll back up ranch rescue, civil homeland defense, and American Border Patrol. I believe in the American way, and I believe in the American people. I don't want it. I don't want all the lives of the people who fought for this great country to go down the tubes.Interviewer
00:45:49 What does an American person mean to you? Who are the American people?Bill Dore
00:45:52 The American people are the people who speak English. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Learn our culture, wrong, wrong. Our background, and soDevon Stack
00:46:03 and so on. No,Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:08 what a, what a bitch.Devon Stack
00:46:11 Yeah, so unfortunately that was the issue, is they would, because here's the thing, Mexicans can, you know, or at least arguably do to, you know, to the satisfaction of this guy, probably do all those things. Yeah, a Mexican could learn English. A Mexican can can start shopping at the mall and getting Starbucks, and you know, and watching, you know, whatever the popular, you know, The Bachelor, whatever it was on in 2005 right? A Mexican, in fact, the guy he's talking to right now, he probably considers an American, you know, because he's speaking English, he's got his hat on backwards, and you know, he's wearing the polo shirt, or whatever, he's American, you know, and so that's alwaysRebecca Hargraves
00:46:55 not asking himself the question, Who established the American way? What is the American way? Why is it like this, and it's because of white people, so frustrating. I hope this guy's dead now.Devon Stack
00:47:07 Well, he probably is now. I mean, unless he's like 100 so yeah, they would do anything, anything to avoid being called racist. And the big thing, here's the funny thing, I used to think it was a dog whistle, but when they would say culture instead of race, but I really don't, I don't think so. 00:47:26 I think that they really convinced themselves, like I was saying with the operating system thing, I think they really convinced themselves that it was that there was this magic thing called culture that was like a human software that you can install on, on literally a pygmy, or a, you know, you know, a Mexican or an Eskimo, and they would overnight become like just some normal, normal white guy. And it's funny, because this guy, I, you couldn't have found a more boomer way of expressing that than this guy right here.
Joseph Sweeney
00:47:59 Some people try to equate me with a biological racism. I'm not, I'm a cultural racist. I believe people have to take cultural responsibility. By culture, I mean pattern perception or symbolic interpretation, and we have a different symbolic interpretation of our, of our symbols and our logic on this side of the border than they have on their side of the border.Rebecca Hargraves
00:48:18 That's so retarded. If you have a genetic argument for racial hierarchy, then you don't have to do any of this shit, you don't00:48:27 have to
00:48:27 act like this, you don't have to say any of this, you don't have to make up terms like cultural racist. It's like, good Lord, why are all the front men for this such nerds?
Devon Stack
00:48:38 Well, and the thing is, this guy, he understands that the minds of white people are different, and that we do interpret data differently, and in fact,Rebecca Hargraves
00:48:49 this guy knows he knowsDevon Stack
00:48:52 he knows he gets it, but like at the same time he won't, he won't just say it, he won't just say look, white people, the reason why that our country is the way it is, the way that we interact with each other, the way that we do, is that we're white. He's trying to make it sound like, again, this is like a software issue, it's not a hardware issue, and so it's easily solved. And so, you know, if we could just take the time to, you know, send out the IT guys and install all the updates on to the Mexicans, you know, the00:49:23 real
Rebecca Hargraves
00:49:23 program, all of these specs. Yeah,Devon Stack
00:49:26 just just uninstall the Mexican malware, and they'll be, they'll be compatible with America 5.0 and it'll be, it'll be great. And because that's what he says, he's literally saying one of the issues, and this is something I used to hear, actually, a lot from people like him, is they would say things like, well, I guess again, they, they had their, they understood the problem, but they couldn't connect like the last dot, and they would say things like,Rebecca Hargraves
00:49:53 could they just refuse to,Devon Stack
00:49:55 well, yeah, I think a lot of it was probably like the civil rights movement. Programming, like overwriting, you know, getting in the way, like they couldn't, yeah, they just wouldn't do it, but they would say things like, you know, well, one of the reasons why they have to learn English is if you translate the, you know, like the founding documents into Spanish, it won't sound exactly the same, and so, like, it won't, you know, the same images won't pop, and it's like, no, it's just if a white person reads something that another white person wrote, it's going to hit different than if a white person reads something a Japanese guy wrote, or a Mexican reads something that a white guy wrote. 00:50:35 Like, we have different brains, and our ability to relate to those brains is limited to experience, and you'll never know. I mean, the one of the things that black people say all the time that actually is true is like, you'll never know what it's like to be black. It's like, thank fucking god, right? Yeah,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:50:52 but00:50:52 that is a fact.
Devon Stack
00:50:54 Yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
00:50:54 and I have no sympathy for these boomers either, because what, what were they going to lose by being called racist, you couldn't dock somebody in like 1996 you wouldn't ruin their internet credibility. It would.. it's not like everybody would find out within five seconds that you were racist. It was a different world back then. There wasn't the widespread information that that's here now. They go, "No, you're gonna lose your job in like telecoms or whatever. Buck up,Devon Stack
00:51:22 they still said nigger on TV in the 90s,Rebecca Hargraves
00:51:25 yeah,Devon Stack
00:51:25 regularly, like it wasn't a big deal, like it wasn't like some, you know, it certainly wasn't a word that that would make you your whole life is over because you said nigger in public, like you could say nigger in public and like nothing would happen to you, you might get some dirty looks, or if you're in a black neighborhood, you might hope that you're, you've got a concealed carry, but you know that was about it, you know. 00:51:48 So, yeah, they really had it was low risk, they had nothing to risk, except for I think what it is, is it was like a self-image kind of a thing, right? Like, they, they had so fully embraced this, like we are the age of Aquarius, you know, we're the new, you know, post-racism generation that, you know, that we've, we are above all that, and that, and all these, all these naughty racial thoughts I'm having in my head, it's just this residue that, you know, might hopefully my children don't have to deal with, you know,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:52:20 that's so much worse than responding to the whims of social pressure, which we need a degree of that in society, or we're never going to be able to get women under control, and when we take back power, not everybody's going to be racist if we don't have all these sheep falling into line, like that's a real pressure, but like you feel bad about yourself, you feel like a bad man, what a pussy,Devon Stack
00:52:41 right now, and these people should be shamed and mocked, and you know, and look, some of these people, and once you find out what some of their backstory, they should be more than that, but yeah, so that was that was the issue with the, the race, the race disconnect, and why they would never ever ever really put it together, but now some subgroups, they were, I guess you could say, a little more racially aware, but they wereRebecca Hargraves
00:53:12 Jews.Devon Stack
00:53:13 Well, no, not Jews, I'm talking about the, the, the other factions of the.. Oh, I thought we had some SPLCRebecca Hargraves
00:53:20 clip. Never mind,Devon Stack
00:53:22 no, wait. doing? No, we don't.Rebecca Hargraves
00:53:24 I see SPLC fag bitching about..Devon Stack
00:53:27 oh, I do. Wait, I do. You're right. Here's the SPLC fag.David Holthouse - SPLC
00:53:31 Well, from the time that the Minute Man Project was announced late last year, the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project began tracking the efforts of white power, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, and other what we label hate groups to openly recruit their members to join the Minutemen Project. 00:53:52 The second group of men that I walked by, who were sitting in lawn chairs at the protest rally, who called me over and said, "Hey, we're National Alliance. You know, are you National Alliance? Are you white power? What are you doing here? You know, and they very quickly confided in me the fact that they had assault rifles in the back of their SUV, and they were trying to organize a white power patrol group. They were all viewing the Minutemen Project as very fertile recruiting ground, as they, as one member of the Aryan Nations put it, most of the people there at the Minuteman project, if they're not already members of a hate group, they're half awake, and we can bring them to full awakeness.
J.T. Ready - Minuteman Project Volunteer
00:54:29 We are on the front lines of freedom right now. Our very republic is teetering on the edge. The future for our posterity is in jeopardy now. We must secure our American borders now.Devon Stack
00:54:52 All right,Rebecca Hargraves
00:54:53 you might like what this fat loser has to say,Devon Stack
00:54:58 but this guy was a disaster. Yes, he wasRebecca Hargraves
00:55:01 absolutely. This is JT Ready, and he was part of this faction vigilante group called the Minute Man Civil Defense Corps. This was like part of their splintering, so I think it was like an offshoot of the original group, not one that kind of developed in tandem, but he lost his mind. He was already insane. I, he had like a bunch of priors, he couldn't hold a job. I think he got dishonorably discharged, or he was in like military court for theft, like, so it was a bad, bad shit. Anyway, he goes and he kills his girlfriendDevon Stack
00:55:42 before you rip that band aid off. Well, now that cats out of the bag, you'll.. this next clip will sound aRebecca Hargraves
00:55:51 little bit much worse than that, actually.Devon Stack
00:55:53 Oh, yes, it does. You only barely just barely, yeah, just opened a little.. you cracked the door open a little bit, but he. I'll tell you what. Despite that little fun fact, and it gets worse, it does. He did run for sheriff, and he was.. if you listen to him in some.. well, at least some of the recordings I was able to find. It's funny because he actually sounds kind of smart. He kind of sounds relatable. He sounds put together. 00:56:21 He's talking about America first. Oh, wait, I thought I thought some gay Mexican came up with that. I keep people keep telling me he came up with that, but that's weird. This guy is talking about in 2005 So here's a little clip of him sounding a lot like a fellow white nationalist, I would say today, and this is an interview, I believe this is during his campaign, because he ran for, I think he ran for a couple things. This might have been when he was running for sheriff, and he's being asked about his involvement with the border groups.
00:56:55 I mean, why are you so ardently against illegal immigration, or immigration period?
J.T. Ready - Minuteman Project Volunteer
00:57:01 Well, and that's that's the key thing, is we're always put into the, we're against, we're anti-immigration, or we're against something. Actually, I'm actually for America, I'm for sovereignty, and I'm for our rich European American culture, which we have here, which has made this creation, this nation great. And so, what I would say is, why are they against European Americans, why are they against the rich fabric that we have woven here in America from our founding fathers? Why do they want to invade our country and our land? That would be the question that I would have. And so I would see them as anti-American, and I'm simply an American who's here defending our nation, our culture, and our country.Devon Stack
00:57:40 Is that the whole concept behind America First.J.T. Ready - Minuteman Project Volunteer
00:57:43 America First, absolutely. Well, America First is a natural thing. You should be for America First if you're from Mexico and you had Mexico first, or Guatemala first if you're from Guatemala. That makes perfect sense. What doesn't make sense is for people to come here from somewhere else and demand that their language, a foreign language, be spoken and written and printed up on the taxpayers dime, that their flags are are flown and not assimilated into our culture. Now that's what's foreign and unnatural and alien to what we should be looking out for here in the United States of America. And I would expect any country, I wouldn't go to Pakistan and go out there and burn their flags. I don't think I would probably live too long if I did, but I wouldn't demand that the Fourth of July be celebrated in Mexico and demand taxpayer benefits of Mexico. 00:58:31 And in fact, they have laws that prevent people from owning land close to the shore in Mexico. If you're a foreigner, so every culture must protect itself, protect its borders. Otherwise, it ceases to exist. And if we want to continue on the path that we're going and cease to exist as a nation, and see the rest of Western civilization collapse on top of us with that, as we see in Europe already, in England and Germany, and other places, then it's already written in stone. But I think we have enough good patriots that are standing up and opposing that. We've also seen these tea parties. I mean, that's a great eruption of patriotism, if I've ever seen
Devon Stack
00:59:08 it. Oh, you, you optimistic faggot.Rebecca Hargraves
00:59:12 I blew the reveal on this one. Oh, yeah, what a bummer.Devon Stack
00:59:15 Yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
00:59:16 bummer.Devon Stack
00:59:17 Well, this guy, yeah, look, he said a lot more. This guy really was race, race pilled for sure, but this was in a public interview, obviously he's not bringing it up, which, but again, I think that was a mistake. I think that that's a bad strategy, and yeah, are you going to get elected? No, but he wasn't going to get elected anyway,00:59:35 you know.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:59:35 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:59:36 so you might as well just not lie, and might as well normalize it. It's like when people, you shouldn't be optics cucking when your survival is on the line. Bottom line is, when you're, when you literally are facing extinction, and you're worried. Well, how's this gonna look? Fuck you. 00:59:54 Yeah, you're a fucking bitch, and in fact, you want those extremists, you want the people pushing it so far. Are and being obscene about it, and crashing those, those taboos, so that with, you know, a normal mom and pop talking in the barber shop, or whatever, doesn't like, they don't feel so worried about, like, oh, is it too rude to say nigger in public, it's like, no, not anymore, because there's some guy running around yelling what's up, niggers, to everybody, and shooting black guys in front of courthouses, and whatnot. Like, you
01:00:26 gotta have,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:00:26 why we need to support Chud. I hate that people are like, "Oh, well, he was doing something stupid, irrelevant, irrelevant, he's changing things for average people. And I hate it when people say widening the Overton window, because it's so cliche and trite, but that is what he's doing.Devon Stack
01:00:44 Yeah, tribe up, tribe up. You know, you got to be on the side of your fellow whites, especially those who are look, you don't have to sit there and send them money, you don't even have to retweet them, but when there's people actively counter signaling him, you're an enemy of the white race, you are anyone that's doing that is an enemy of the white race, and if you're going out of your way to not support people like that, you're an enemy of the white race. You're a cancer, and you will be eradicated, or else we can't survive. And I'm sorry, I think white people are going to survive, so you'll be on the operate operating room floor when we're done, but anyway, as you, as you kind of alluded to, unfortunatelyRebecca Hargraves
01:01:31 you mean stated explicitly on accidentDevon Stack
01:01:34 like this, this, this happened here.Jennifer - Anchorwoman
01:01:36 Meanwhile, the death of a border vigilante has nothing to do with his controversial activities, at least that's the tentative word right now, from police in Gilbert. They say militia organizer and former neo-Nazi JT Reddy killed four people, then himself, in a burst of domestic violence. One of those killed, a little girl between the ages of one and two. Reddy had a reputation as one of the most aggressive forces in the immigration debate. Not on your side's Craig Smith joins us from the newsroom now with more on JT Ready. Craig, what have you been able to find out?Craig Smith - Reporter
01:02:07 Jennifer, JT Ready was an extreme and controversial figure in an issue full of extreme and controversial figures. Some of his allies have suggested his activities led a cartel hit squad to take him out, but Gilbert police say everything points to a domestic dispute that led him to turn to part of his extensive collection of guns. Devon Stack
01:02:27 Now, there are people, in fact, there still are people that think that he didn't actually kill his entire family and then himself, but that the cartel made it look like that, or that the FBI killed him because he was being actively investigated by the FBI, and there's a lot of conspiracy theories, but I found the audio of the 911 call that the daughter of his girlfriend made moments after the shooting, and this is what it sounds like.911 Dispatch
01:03:11 Where's your emergency?911 Caller
01:03:13 530 West Temple Weed Road, Gilbert Gerson, 852335911 Dispatch
01:03:18 30 West Humble Weed, and Governor. What's going on there? Tell me, what about your mom?911 Caller
01:03:31 It was my mom's boyfriend, and JT ready. They were fighting there, screaming. I was in my room. Where911 Dispatch
01:03:39 did you hear the gunshots? I heard it coming from you know,911 Caller
01:03:50 my mom, Lisa Medeiros,911 Dispatch
01:03:55 my mom, my sister, and my niece and your niece have always thought we had, we've had officers on the way,Devon Stack
01:04:07 so she positively identifies him as the shooter, and I looked at the case, the other evidence available, it's pretty clear that he, yeah, he was really into guns, and got in a huge fight with his girlfriend, shot her, and then freaked out and shot everybody else, and shot himself, soRebecca Hargraves
01:04:31 including a 15 month old,Devon Stack
01:04:34 yeah, yeah, soRebecca Hargraves
01:04:36 awful, Medeiros, were they white,Devon Stack
01:04:40 his, oh, that would have been funny if his.. if his girlfriend was Mexican, that would have been..Rebecca Hargraves
01:04:47 yeah, Lynn Medeiros, Amber Neev Medeiros..Devon Stack
01:04:51 that doesn't sound white. IRebecca Hargraves
01:04:55 didn't catch this before the show, butDevon Stack
01:04:57 man, you. Look, can you Google pick it? See if there's a picture of herRebecca Hargraves
01:05:03 looking. I'm looking. If I find it, I will let you know. AllDevon Stack
01:05:09 right. Well, I'll tell you what. There's also, sorry guys, that you know that guy, Tim Simcox, or was it? Is it Tim? Is that his first name, Jim? No, Chris. Chris Simcox. So I'm all over the place. Chris Simcox, the guy who started the start of the Minute Man. Well,Anchorwoman
01:05:39 C 15 newsroom at this hour, a man well known in the valley and the state for his views on immigration and border security is now accused of molesting young girls. 50-two year old Chris Simcox accused of sexually attacking three girls all under the age of 10. Simcox is the co-founder of the Minute Men Civil Defense Corps and was a one-time candidate for the US Senate. His Minute Men movement brought 1000s of anti-illegal immigration activists to patrol the US-Mexico border. Prior to starting the Minutemen, Simcox taught kindergarten in California for more than a decade. This is not the first time he's been accused of molestation. Sim Cox's first wife claimed he tried to molest their daughter. We'll keep you updated. Geez,Rebecca Hargraves
01:06:22 good. Wait, before we move on, it looks like the girlfriend was white, and the niece does not look white.Devon Stack
01:06:33 Well, some of some of those Hispanics look pretty close. It depends onRebecca Hargraves
01:06:36 no,Devon Stack
01:06:38 she looks white. White,Rebecca Hargraves
01:06:39 yeah,Devon Stack
01:06:41 okay.Rebecca Hargraves
01:06:43 Anyway, I thought maybe, maybe this guy got railroaded, because this is a lot of stories about people in the Minutemen that got, you know, that got that got in some trouble, but there was a lot of evidence that he, it sounds like maybe like totally raped a five year old girl,Devon Stack
01:07:03 yeah, and ongoing activity like that for years, maybe when he was a school teacher as well, you know, his wife said that he was up to stuff like that, his own daughters testified against him, so I mean, yeah, another one of those cases where people like us, the FBI set him up. Look, that would be my first possibility too. I'd be like, yeah, that's possible, but then you look into, like, no, actually, no, yeah. And this is, this is really goes down to the problem with leadership in a lot of these organizations, and this is why you have to be hard on leaders. 01:07:47 0This is why you do have to accuracy spiral, as I have coined the term, when it comes to knowing what kind of people that your leaders are. This is why when you start to notice things, and I don't, I mean, everyone, even people like Trump, when you start ignoring little things about a potential leader and thinking, oh well, that won't really matter, even there's all these red flags, but I want, I want to win this election so bad that I'm going to ignore all these red flags, or, or I'm so happy, because well, at least he's doing something. At least he's on the news, you know. Fox News is interviewing Chris Simcox. He's bringing, you know, raising awareness about the border. It's like, yeah, but he's a pedo, you know. And
Rebecca Hargraves
01:08:32 the higher they're able to rise in the, in the, in the hierarchy or gain power momentum, the bigger the fall will be when these things are inevitably discovered, and then it hurts the credibility of the entire cause, like we have to be discerning, we have toDevon Stack
01:08:49 right now, and we have to. This is why you have to make sure that the people that want to be in positions of power, whether you're talking about a politician or just any kind of leader of men, you need to make sure these are people that are there for the right reasons, and oftentimes they're not, because those, those are not usually the kinds of qualities that you want in a leader, are usually not the kinds of qualities that people who seek leadership roles have, and so inevitably you get kind of scumbag people that get into leadership roles, and it doesn't end here, like it's not just the neo-Nazi guy that that killed his family, or the the other creep that was molesting his daughter and her friends, but there's another person as well, you want to talk about her a little bit. I've got, I've got some, I got a news report. I'll tell it, I'll play the news report about her being arrested, and then if you'd like to fill people in on the did you finish watching that thing on her?Rebecca Hargraves
01:09:57 Yeah,Devon Stack
01:09:58 okay, okay, I'll let you. Cover that, then, so here's the news report on another member of the Minute Men.Kristi Tedesco - Reporter
01:10:06 A major break in the double murder of a father and his nine year old daughter, shot and killed in a home invasion last month. Three people have been arrested now, and one of the suspects is the national head of the Minute Men American Defense, Shawna Ford, charged with first degree murder, and, according to investigators, is the mastermind of the brutal crime. 01:10:27 Her alleged cohorts, Albert Garciola and Jason Bush, all three reportedly barged into an Arivaca home, intending to steal cash and drugs, and inside, nine year old Brisenia Flores shot and killed her father, Raul. Also shot dead. The sole survivor, Brisenia's mother, who was shot, she survived, and she managed to return fire during the incident, hitting one of the suspects.
Reporter
01:10:52 Suspect Shana Ford and Albert Gaxiola both appeared in video court a short while ago. Ford was arrested today about 15 miles southeast of Sierra Vista, Yaxiola was arrested late this afternoon near Park and Benson Highway. Both of them taken into custody without incident. 01:11:09 Bond for the two suspects set at $1 million The third suspect, Jason Bush, shown in this mug shot, was arrested yesterday in Kingman, Arizona. He's being treated at a Kingman hospital for a gunshot he received during the murders when the sole survivor fired back. Now, sheriff's officials again say this is one of the most despicable cases they've ever dealt with. Albert, did you do it?
Albert Gaxiola
01:11:30 No.01:11:31 I did not do it
Reporter
01:11:31 you think about that nine year old guy?Albert Gaxiola
01:11:32 I think that's tragic. Reporter
01:11:40 What do you think you're under arrest for? Did you do01:11:42 it?
Shawna Ford
01:11:42 No, I did not do it. I had nothing to do.Reporter
01:11:45 Murder suspects Shawna Ford and Albert Gaxiola, both pleading their innocence in the shooting deaths of nine year old Brisenia Flores and her father, Raul Flores. A third suspect, Jason Bush, was arrested in Kingman.Clarence Dupnick - Pima County Sheriff
01:11:58 Jason Bush was in fact the shooter of all three of these people, under orders from Ms. Ford, theReporter
01:12:08 motive: Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dup Nick,Clarence Dupnick - Pima County Sheriff
01:12:11 the husband who was murdered, has a history of being involved in narcotics, and there was an anticipation that there would be considerable amount of cash at this location, as well as the possibility of drugs.Rebecca Hargraves
01:12:27 Okay, well, that's that's kind of true. But this woman was like standard BPD chick. She had all these changes in identity over her whole life. She was just like a really bizarre lady, and she was from Everett, Washington, but like found a way to Arizona to be a part of this group, and then made some kind of offshoot group that she was the leader of, called the Minutemen American Defense. So, what happened here is that she had massive delusions of grandeur, where she was thinking that she could single-handedly take out the cartel, and so she planned with this Mexican guy, inexplicably, and this other white guy to find these drug smugglers who they thought were drug smugglers, and that the guy that they, that she, they busted in on might have been like low-level drugs, I think he was. He probably fuck him, but they didn't find any money or any drugs.Devon Stack
01:13:28 My understanding is he didn't have the money or drugs at his house, but they, he, he had money and drugs, just not what he kept it out of his house in case he was ever raided by cops.Rebecca Hargraves
01:13:40 He probably wasn't, but he wasn't like a drug kingpin. So, their plan was to, like, find these drug smugglers to steal the drugs or the money, and then to sell the drugs and use that, the money to fund the Minutemen. But something went wrong here, and this guy, her co-her accomplice goes in, and like, the first thing that he does when he goes in there is he just blows this nine year old girl, girl away. She had like muzzle shots on her face. He just like immediately blows her away. He shoots everybody, and then they go back and they try to kill the mom. They can't. The mom is armed. She comes out and she's able to hit one of the guys,Devon Stack
01:14:20 I think it's the same guy that shot her daughter in the face.Rebecca Hargraves
01:14:24 Well, I mean, this is an ill-conceived plan. It's a stupid, stupid plan. It wasn't gonna work, and you know, you two dudes, you're gonna be led by a woman, right? Woman with delusions of grandeur. Like, what are you? What are you guys doing? What are you doing? Jason Bush, anyway. She's.. I think she's still on death row.Devon Stack
01:14:46 Yeah, no, I think so. Yeah, they did all three of them got the death penalty, right?Rebecca Hargraves
01:14:52 Yep,Devon Stack
01:14:54 yeah. So they'll be on death row for ever.Rebecca Hargraves
01:14:59 Strangely. She was kicked out of the standard Minutemen Alliance by Chris Simcox, because he found her too detestable, because she was writing about going after the drug cartel. He was like, "Nope, by the pet out. He's like, "Nope, you can't be in here, lady, you're too immoral.Devon Stack
01:15:19 Well, it's.. it's the same kind of woman, honestly, that, that becomes like the Q Anon weirdo, you know, and I don't know, I don't remember the case anymore, but there was a case of a woman who got all into super into Q Anon, and then convinced her roommate to kill some guy because he was a secret pedo or something like that, and they like took him out to the desert and tortured him to death, and it was all bullshit. She was just a fucking psycho, and so I think it's the same kind of a thing where there's these psycho women that find men who are losers who will kill for like low-grade pussy, and that's what people die, you know, it's these.. 01:16:02 it's this is what in cells look like when they're like 40, and they haven't been laid in like over a decade, and so just being able to touch a boob, you know, they're into it, you know, they'll shoot a nine year old in the face all day long if you know they get that old crusty poon, so that's you know, that's unfortunate, but that's.. I think that's the kind of thing that you see.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:16:21 Oh, that didn't even occur to me as an angle. She probably wasn't even banging you.Devon Stack
01:16:25 Well, I don't know, maybe, maybe,Rebecca Hargraves
01:16:29 dude. What a disaster. What a disaster. Okay, let's talk about some of the issues. Let's summarize some of the issues with the Minutemen, because there's a real gripe here. Okay, like, and that's how movements just go off the rails. I heard you say that we don't have a movement, we have a cause, and I think that that's important, because when, when all of our ideals are attributed to people and they're carried on through people, we get the Nick Fuentes problem, we get the Donald Trump problem. 01:16:57 We have to be more careful than this, and this is like an early iteration of Nick Fuentes, and that story, it's like we have a problem, we'll take anybody that we can get to try to solve this problem. No, no, no, no. You take a select few that are carefully vetted, well spoken, have appropriate credentials, you take those and you, you put them out into the world, and you, you hope for the best, but you don't take crazy women and pedophiles and weird fat neo Nazis that have violent histories, like we need to be discerning. I can't state that enough,
Devon Stack
01:17:33 right? No, it's it's not about purity spiraling, it's like for the same reason why wanting to live in a white country is not purity spiraling, right? Like, we, it's because we want to have discernment, and we know that, just like with the metaphors for having a white country, where you know, oh, well, you know, you think that 15% Mexican is too much, it's like, well, would you drink water that's 15% you know, cow shit, like, unless you're Indian, my guess, like, you know, it's percentages matter, like, small percentages can make a big difference, and the same thing is true of, you know, when you have people that are trying to champion white causes and prevent us from being genocided, you have to be careful about the kinds of people that you trust to do that, and so, yeah, you're always having to vet people, and there's nothing that's not purity spiraling when you see those red flags that all inevitably every time, right, but every time, by the way, these people that you ignore the red flags, it always comes, it bites in the ass. 01:18:41 It's like it's like with women, right. Think of it this way. How many times for the men in the audience, everyone will be able to relate to this. How many times have you gone out with a girl and you see all these red flags, and you know, you know in that moment when you're, when you're, you know, you know in that moment this is gonna, this is a deal breaker, this is gonna, you know, this is a fatal flaw, but you ignore it because you want to get laid, or because you're lonely, or whatever, right? And so you ignore it, and you ignore it, and then when you break up, what is it always that you break up over? It's that thing you saw that on your first date,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:19:16 that is so true.Devon Stack
01:19:18 It's always the, it's the thing that you knew about the first day you knew about it, and you just ignored it because you wanted it to work so bad, and that's how people are with, you know, people like Trump and people like Nick Fuentes. It's like everyone knew right away, like, oh, wait, hold on, he's Mexican, he's gay. Oh, I don't know about that, but he's funny, you know. You end up like not caring after a while, but then, whatever, whatever's gonna happen in a big way, it'll be because he's a gay Mexican, you know. And yeah, and that'sRebecca Hargraves
01:19:53 why, girly, get out of here.Devon Stack
01:19:56 And it's like, with Trump, it was the same thing. It's like, wait, wait a second. Is his son-in-law is a Jew, you know? His, it's like, well, well, it's alright, you know. Wait, hold on. The guy, he's Steve Miller. That guy's a Jew too. Well, that's probably fine. And then, you know,Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:12 no. But what do you do to avoid this problem? You have a list, and you, it's you, just check off the list, like if x, y, and Z are present, like, no, that I can't date you. We need to do that with leadership, like, you can't be gay, you have to be white, you can't have any Jewish associations, and that's like a pretty good start. That's an excellent start, right there. How aboutDevon Stack
01:20:36 you? Can't be insane.Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:38 Yeah, you can't. You can't be insane.Devon Stack
01:20:40 You have to, you have to be like a normal person, you know, like a person that, like, I don't immediately think that you've maybe killed a small animal for fun, or you know, just that I wouldn't trust you, I have to trust you around kids, like if I meet you and I feel like I couldn't trust you around children, you know there's a problem, there'sRebecca Hargraves
01:21:01 what red flags have you ignored?Devon Stack
01:21:06 Are you asking me personally? Yeah, what'sRebecca Hargraves
01:21:12 the worst one?Devon Stack
01:21:15 Girl that I, that I, I found I realized that she had been a stripper, right? So yeah. yeah, cuz like this is the this is how I figured it out. She was weird about touching money, and she kept.. she made a comment about like how dirty money was, and that's why she didn't like to touch cash, and there was just something in my brain that was like she was a stripper, and it's she's she's having flashbacks to those dollar, she knows where those dollar bills have been, right? And I was right. 01:21:45 In fact, I called her on it, like that, like just moments after she said that. I was like, "What were you a stripper? And she's like, "How'd you know that? And I was like, "You're weird about touching money, and it just kind of made sense, you know? And you know, and she, she was, and that was like the first major red flag of this girl that, like, I totally ignored, because
Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:08 how long did you date her?Devon Stack
01:22:10 Too long, too long,Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:11 how long, how long?Devon Stack
01:22:13 Yeah, maybe like in the six months, right? But here's the thing, it was six months, and then, like, I still get emails from her occasion. Well, actually, it's been a few years now, but, like, this was, like, this was, like, over 10 years ago, and she'd be married and emailing me. She's been married three times, I know this, because she, she, every in between husbands, she, she still emails.Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:34 I bet, though, that she looks like so fine.Devon Stack
01:22:38 Yes, not anymore, though. Not anymore, not anymore. Not these days.Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:44 Well, the wall gets us all.Devon Stack
01:22:46 Yeah.Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:47 Oh man,Devon Stack
01:22:48 total psycho, total psycho.Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:50 Mine's worse01:22:51 than that, worse than that.
Devon Stack
01:22:53 Oh yeah. What'd you ignore?Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:54 Okay, I was dating this guy in LA. He was good on paper. He was really hot. I like spending time with a mild mannered, this was when I was a libertarian, and his sister was a lesbian, and they already had a child, because the wife of the sister used to bang dudes, and they wanted another child, and they wanted it to be from her genetics, and so he was donating sperm to his sister-in-law,01:23:27 huh?
01:23:28 And I knew he told me this, like, right away. I'm like, I was, I was like, no, no, fucking way, like, there's just no way I'm ever gonna get over this, because you will be your son's uncle, right? I was
01:23:45 your son,
Devon Stack
01:23:45 that's being raised by lesbians, uncle,Rebecca Hargraves
01:23:48 right? But I was, you know, I was 24 and I was a libertarian, so I was like, I'm being so judgmental, and he's such a good man to do this for a sister, and it's just a kindness, the blood of dadadada, and then eventually I wised up. I was with him for a year, and eventually I just couldn't get over that, and so I left in the night. I justDevon Stack
01:24:07 were there other things that we, that you would say that like that were associated with his, his inability to see what was wrong with that, that also like, like that manifested in the relationship, likeRebecca Hargraves
01:24:22 he was a libertarian, and you know, but I, at the time, so was I. So I was like, that's fine. And in LA, libertarian is as close to conservative as you're gonna get.Devon Stack
01:24:31 Yeah, that's true.Rebecca Hargraves
01:24:32 And I was 24 so I was basically retarded. But no, I ghosted that guy after dating for a year. He was really, really pissed, really, really pissed, but he couldn't understand why I had such a big problem with this, and honestly, I didn't understand at the time, like, why I had such a big problem with it. I kept trying to override, like, my, my biological problem, because I was like, well, he's gonna be the father of another child if we ever have kids, I'm not gonna be like,Devon Stack
01:24:59 well. And you're lesbian ants for your kid,Rebecca Hargraves
01:25:03 yeah,Devon Stack
01:25:04 you know, and you're gonna, and you're always gonna have these fucking fags in your life like the rest of your life,Rebecca Hargraves
01:25:10 that was so stupid,Devon Stack
01:25:13 yeah, yeah, it happens, but yeah, that's the thing, people, people ignore these red flags, and next thing you know, you know, like you're going to war with Israel again, becauseRebecca Hargraves
01:25:26 I know, right?01:25:27 You know, but everybody
01:25:28 acts like these are things that you find out down the road. No, you almost always have all of the information.
01:25:33 Yeah,
01:25:33 almost always.
Devon Stack
01:25:35 Yeah, the only people that acts, I mean, with Trump, it's like the people that are acting surprised are doing that because they don't want to feel stupid, for you know, ignoring all the people that were screaming at them that he's owned by Jews for like eight years straight.Rebecca Hargraves
01:25:51 Get out of here. I don't know. Ask Grandma, get out of here.Devon Stack
01:25:59 Let me go to our, for heaven's sakes, our main screen here, and it's gonna play the intro real quick.Intro
01:26:05 You're watching Outlaw.Devon Stack
01:26:07 There we are now watching Outlaws.Rebecca Hargraves
01:26:10 Yeah, laws.01:26:11 All right,
01:26:12 some supers.
Devon Stack
01:26:13 Let's doRebecca Hargraves
01:26:15 it. Send your super chats into Blonde and the Belly of the Beast, or Brumbles into Devon, or PayPal is linked below. All of our links are linked below. That's redundant. First,Devon Stack
01:26:27 sure.Rebecca Hargraves
01:26:29 Or I can go first.Devon Stack
01:26:31 Let's see here. Likes to watch says still so damn happy that you two are doing this podcast. Nothing but respect for you both. That's very nice. SoRebecca Hargraves
01:26:45 happy we're doing this podcast too.Devon Stack
01:26:48 Yeah, and that's very generous of you. Likes to watch. Then we got the Supreme Rabbi Satan says, thanks to the gayest generation, you don't speak German, but you better learn Spanish.Rebecca Hargraves
01:27:01 Yeah,Devon Stack
01:27:03 this is true. This is true. I, you know, I.. I've never been to learn Spanish. I've tried a couple times. It's the whole, like, yeah. I honestly, it's not even.. it's not that it's technically hard. It's more that I get, I get like angry.. like, why am I? Why don't they just learn English?Rebecca Hargraves
01:27:23 I don't want them to learn English. They're going to be increasingly less, less difficult, or more difficult to identify.Devon Stack
01:27:30 That's true. Well, no, I could just tell by looking at himself. All right, then we got the Shogun says O slash, then the shadow band says good topic, glad to hear about some people trying to do positive things instead of just evil people. Well, you must have brought that in early, early in the show. Sorry for the twist at the end there. That person's at home, like not again. Yeah, sorry, yeah, it started good. 01:28:05 Yeah, it's like a horror film, like the family's all happy and they find the new house, and they're like, oh, this is a nice room. Oh, what's what's behind this poster over here? Don't look back there. And then, like, the movie gets scary. It's the same thing. All right, then we got the Supreme Rabbi saying, says the coming recession is thanks to us, but I need to take a poll. What false flag would you need to get behind a ground invasion? I need boots on the ground, so I can kick the Kalergi plan into overdrive. I don't know what kind of false flag would happen that would get people to want to invade Iran. I don't think it's
Rebecca Hargraves
01:28:46 a very01:28:47 specifically, because I don't, I can't even imagine this.
Devon Stack
01:28:50 Yeah, well, nothing would get me behind it, but I think he means like just like Americans, like what would, what would have to happen for them to be like, oh yeah, fuck Iran, you know, like to get well for to get the idiot boomers on board, it'd be real easy. I mean, you could just bomb, like a McDonald's, and say it was, you know, Iran,Rebecca Hargraves
01:29:09 a light terrorist attack would probably doDevon Stack
01:29:12 it. Yeah, like literally anything. Then they'd beRebecca Hargraves
01:29:15 like, I think they're gonna have to shoot up another gay club.Devon Stack
01:29:18 Yeah, I mean, something like that, that would do it, but I don't know. I don't think it'll get the most people won't believe it, though, either, because there's, there's such a distrust of the, the media and everything, especially with AI now. I mean, it's hard to get people to believe things that are, that are actually real, you know, that we get them to believe in that, so you're gonna have a lot of distrust of any kind of false flag that would come in right now. So, all right, then we got the Shadow Band says, okay, not that case, not that positive, but gotta try. So, the Shadow Band saw.Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:00 Now, theDevon Stack
01:30:01 exciting conclusion there,Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:03 we should, we've covered some positive stories. What about the San Francisco Vigilance Committee? That was kind of fun.Devon Stack
01:30:10 That was fun. That was a good one. That included a lot of positivity, a lot ofRebecca Hargraves
01:30:16 about how you only have to kill three to five people to really send ripples through a community and keep people in line, that is a very positive message sent from outlaws.Devon Stack
01:30:26 The roof hole story was pretty good too.Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:28 That was, yeah,01:30:30 although he
01:30:30 did rape and murder that.
Devon Stack
01:30:32 Wow, had a happy ending.Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:34 TheDevon Stack
01:30:36 opposite of this story, I guess. Then we got Professor Chaos says I'll check out the replay later, guys. Keep up the good work.Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:48 Thank you.Devon Stack
01:30:49 I appreciate that. And then we got Tomohawk says Devon washed Potato Hurricane a few days ago. Uncle Ruckus, at the beginning, was going hard on his own people. I almost felt bad for the guy. Yeah, he's talking about there was a preacher who is fed up with niggers, and he's just like, it's a black guy, it's a black preacher, going like, you know, y'all are stupid, you know, like he's just, he, he's, he was like the most anti-black, black preacher I've ever seen, but he's, is that his actual name, Uncle Rukas or Ruckus, I don't remember what his actual name is, but yeah, he's, he's got a bunch of videos, I think you, you might be able to still find him.Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:34 What do you think about01:31:35 Jesse Lee Peterson? While we're talking about that,
Devon Stack
01:31:38 there's allegations about him too.Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:41 Oh, really?Devon Stack
01:31:43 Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they're real, but you should look into that.Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:50 Okay, that sucks. Because doing a show was really fun.Devon Stack
01:31:55 Oh, you've been on a show?Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:57 I did the hot seat, yeah. And he was like, "Have you forgiven your mother for ruining your life. I was like, what? I was like, I'm doing fine. Amazing.Devon Stack
01:32:09 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. He maybe, maybe the allegations are false.Rebecca Hargraves
01:32:14 I don't even know about this. Oh, I'm looking in the live chat.Devon Stack
01:32:17 Yeah, it'sRebecca Hargraves
01:32:18 true. Can someone DM me any, any of this on Twitter? I don't know what's going on.Devon Stack
01:32:22 They're not great, and they have a.. I don't know, they have a possibility of being true. So,Rebecca Hargraves
01:32:32 man, sucks.Devon Stack
01:32:34 It involves homosexuality. Is itRebecca Hargraves
01:32:38 kids too?Devon Stack
01:32:40 No, no. Luckily, it's not kids. It's not kids, isRebecca Hargraves
01:32:45 it? Rapey,Devon Stack
01:32:46 slightly. It's a little bit. It's a little bit.Rebecca Hargraves
01:32:50 I gotta look this up now.Devon Stack
01:32:51 Yeah, it's not great. And again, I don't know. I don't know if anything ever came of it. I remember when it, when that first happened, it's had a little ring of truth to it, like it did had a little ring of truth to it, and yeah, anyway, I don't know, that's all I'm gonna say. 01:33:15 Love and Division says, "Please check your Odyssey. I'll definitely check that. In fact, I'll check it right now. Oh, it's not there on my Odyssey. What are you talking about? Unless I have to refresh Odyssey, did it break? Oh, it did break. Now there's two on Odyssey. Weird.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:33:33 Hey, look at that.Devon Stack
01:33:35 All right, let's see here. Love and a vision says great show. I had some tree work done today. A crew of seven Mexicans working for a white-owned company. Later someday I had some chimney work done. A Mexican and a black did the work for a white-owned company. For people's information, I made an antelope pill published unboxing video. That's cool.Rebecca Hargraves
01:34:00 That's happened to me too. When I got my roof done, it's like a white guy and a white lady that I talked to, and then it's just a crew of seven Mexicans.Devon Stack
01:34:08 Yeah, that shit's bullshit. I fucking hate that. Any, if you're a subcontractor that's doing that, you are also an enemy of white people. You have to do it to compete. Well, then don't fucking, you're in the wrong business,Rebecca Hargraves
01:34:22 yeah,Devon Stack
01:34:22 because you're, you're basically incentivizing white replacement, yeah, so if that's how you put food on your table, is by incentivizing white replacement, fuck you, how about that, fuck you, so, and that's all I'll say about that, yeah, it's really fucking infuriating, because yeah, if you, and by the way, that goes for if you own a business of any kind, it doesn't have to be like some kind of manual labor thing. 01:34:49 If you're not giving preferential treatment to white people, I don't care if, like, you find a better candidate. We're kind of in a spot where you have to tribe up and you have to like. Maybe take that as an opportunity to train someone up, you know, find a white guy that you can make a better employee, that maybe you know you're gonna have to invest a little bit more into, to you know, to have that racial nepotism working, because we need that, we really need that.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:18 Yeah, totally.Devon Stack
01:35:20 All right, then we have Based and Butterfly Pill said thoughts about Amy Bach getting 41 years for welfare feeding our future fraud in Minnesota, possible candidate for an Outlaws episode. Also, IRebecca Hargraves
01:35:38 saw this.Devon Stack
01:35:39 I hope you'll continue to stream on Odyssey seems a little more legitimate as or as a home for dissidents. Yeah, I'll keep it going. I don't know what Casey's time out, you know, though.Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:50 Amy Bach, the convicted ring leader of the $250.02 $50 million Feeding Our Future fraud scheme in Minnesota, was sentenced to more than 40 years on Thursday. The judge handed Bach a 500 month sentence, and order her to repay $243 million to the federal government. 01:36:05 A jury found her guilty on multiple criminal counts, wire fraud, blah blah blah blah. She orchestrated the larger pandemic fraud case in the country, which diverted 10s of millions in government money meant to feed hungry children. Where'd it go to? Where did
Devon Stack
01:36:22 it go? She's Somali, orRebecca Hargraves
01:36:24 no, she's white.Devon Stack
01:36:28 Is she white or is she white?Rebecca Hargraves
01:36:30 Bach B O C K. She doesn't look Jewish, but I failed before.Devon Stack
01:36:39 Anyway, so Tomahawk says Uncle Ruckus was a character from the cartoon The Boondocks. Oh, that's right, he was a self-hating black man. I never watched that show, because I honestly, I just, I, it was too black for me, like, like I'd be, I'd be awake during, you know, Adult Swim, and then the black show would come on, I'm like, "Here's the show for niggers, but yeah, I don't remember that, I mean, I remember, I remember the show, but yeah, all right, well, sheRebecca Hargraves
01:37:11 rerouted money that was gonna pay minority children, poor minority children, so depending on where the money goes, and it was pandemic money, I kind of don't give the, give a shit about this. She got 42 years in prison for a financial crime like this. If she were black, nothing would have happened to her.Devon Stack
01:37:30 No, absolutely not.Rebecca Hargraves
01:37:33 Oh, this is crafty. I don't know, I might have an unpopular take on this one. I need to learn more. Sorry, go ahead.Devon Stack
01:37:40 No, it's uh, we're good over here.Rebecca Hargraves
01:37:43 Okay, let me reload. 42 years for a financial crime season seems insane, unless you're Jewish, okay?Devon Stack
01:37:57 Then it should be death penalty,Rebecca Hargraves
01:37:59 death penalty. All right, uh Gen X rebellion linked by blood bound by honor. Only we can pass judgment on the dishonored, because the opposite of blind obedience is critical judgment. We should never be blindly obedient. I mean, a lot of people should, but the people that are watching the show should not, because that means that they're already in a free thinking, free thinking realm. 01:38:28 Oh, Devon, I forgot to tell you, the strangest thing happened to me the other day. So I go to, like, a random park in town, this this little park, and my kids are playing with this other set of cute little kids, and they've got cute little names, and then I just like, I'm casually talking to the parents, and you know I'm asking what they do, and then they're asking me what I do, like I do political commentary. And then the husband was like, I know I'm a huge fan of you and gentlemen,
Devon Stack
01:38:52 really,Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:54 like that is so cool.Devon Stack
01:38:58 That's pretty funny. ItRebecca Hargraves
01:38:59 made my day. So he's a big fan of you. He says hello.Devon Stack
01:39:04 I don't think that would ever happen in the wild out here.Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:07 Well, you're, you're anonymous.Devon Stack
01:39:09 No, but I mean, just the dim.. I don't think the people who are out here are our demographic. It's a lot of, lot of grizzled old cowboys and rich boomers that don't like to be in the cold in the winter, so they come.Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:26 You might be surprised, might be surprised once you, you face fag for a woman, and that woman being me, and I pressure you into face fagging, you might just be getting recognized all the time.Devon Stack
01:39:39 Well, maybe, maybe, I guess we'll have to see.Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:42 It's actually really awesome. It's fun. Let's see, Stephen Campbell. If environmental essentialism and the infinite malleability of man were true, then the left would be correct. The blank slate rightist can never win. Surprise, it took many people this long to get it. Well, it's a painful realization. That's why. I people don't want to recognize that that genetics are set and that you can't improve things with environment. 01:40:08 I still have sets of friends that, like, I argue with about this, this with them all the time, and I find it so annoying. They think that things can be altered, especially disease expression can be massively altered through toxic avoidance and healthy living and things like that, so I was trying to tell them, which is true to some degree, but I was trying to tell them about juvenile Huntington's disease, so like if you inherit this disease, you are going to get juvenile Huntington's disease, like there's nothing you can do,
01:40:38 like
01:40:38 you can avoid heavy metals and you can live a clean, like it doesn't matter, you're fucked, you're gonna get it. And they're like, well, maybe if the parents didn't vax, I'm like, listen, like, I, I understand where you're coming from, but it's a painful realization that that genetics are, they, they predetermine a massive part of who you are, your behavior, your life, and like, people don't want to hear it. They want to feel like they have control, but it's also, you know, it feels good to realize that you don't really have that much control. Just give up the control, it's fine,
Devon Stack
01:41:11 right? And I think there's also people that they're just not.. they maybe they made poor choices with, you know, who they had children with, and don't want to admit that maybe their children suck, because, because of, you know, because of who they, who they're, they are, or who their partner is, you know, stuff like that, you know, like, yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:41:33 but you have to also recognize that you're, that you've made a, made a mistake too, and that's really hard for people,Devon Stack
01:41:40 yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:41:41 they don't want to do that. Did you know that it is, and this should be reassuring to parents. I don't know why everybody freaks out about this, that everything that you do for your child, you're not really capable of improving their outcome, but you can make their outcome worse through bad behavior. 01:42:00 It's like you can't increase their IQ. It doesn't really matter how much you read to them in terms of increase in IQ and things like that. I mean, it just doesn't really matter that much. But what it does mean is that you can't fuck up in any really big way, like a heal, like you can't beat your kids, you can't, you know, you can't abuse them, you can't abandon them. Things like that will, will alter them negatively. But you know, parenting is just about hanging out with your kids, and that's pretty much all you can do. That should be reassuring to people.
Devon Stack
01:42:28 Yeah, just don't, just don't abuse your kids, and they'll turn out halfway like you.Rebecca Hargraves
01:42:36 Yay! Oh, I'm going. Vincent Pendragon. Any chance you guys can do a promotion of white groups, we can support? Also, is it just me? But it feels like the majority of everyone doesn't understand the political identity and is treating it more like sports blue versus red. 01:42:53 I think that's that's true, but we're going through a, we're going through some growing pains right now where we are more explicitly defining our political ideology, and I'm here for it. I like it. I think we had this big break in terms of Catholicism, and we're having this, this with Fuentes and like Andrew Tate, and things like that. And I think that what a lot of us are realizing is that this is race-based, like that's it. This is this is a race-based struggle, and that makes things very simple. So, I don't know. I have great hope for whatever this movement
Devon Stack
01:43:34 is. Yeah, sometimes I do.Rebecca Hargraves
01:43:37 Yeah, it's okay. Oh, and any promotion of white groups we can support. I, I like Nova, I like Patriot Front, and I like Return to the Land. What about you?Devon Stack
01:43:53 Yeah, no, I think.. I mean, I obviously think Arva is cool. I've talked to him a couple times. Seems like he gets it, obviously. Hope that their current legal thing works out. We'll know that's the thing, is we'll know a lot about what whites are capable of or able to legally accomplish. 01:44:17 After, I mean, the good thing about what he's doing is a lot of it will set precedent, and unfortunately it's already kind of had an effect in that there have been states now that are passing legislation to prevent a similar thing from occurring in their state, and in fact I think Arkansas is even engaged in that as well, so if you start getting legislation in your state to basically design to bar white people from using any kind of loopholes to create their own community, you're just back to square one, which is you can still do it, you just can't tell people about it, you know.
01:45:00 Know exactly, you can't do it in an organized way, which sucks, because that really limits what you're able to do, because Jews do it all the time. That, in fact, there's like, there's a Jewish community that is, I mean, they're, they're not just, I mean, they got Jew money, right?
01:45:12 So, they're, they went out, I think it's like, it's, it's like in West Virginia, it's, or I don't remember where, but it's like in some beautifully remote forested area, where they're clear cutting like this whole area out, and like building these suburban looking homes, and it's like it's advertised as a Jewish on their website as a Jewish community, and that you can apply to live there, and no one's gonna sue them, maybe someone should, maybe Seth's thing is maybe maybe some white billionaire should be suing these Jewish groups that are basically doing the exact same thing. Let's try,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:45:48 are they all going to be in one place? That you're saying,Devon Stack
01:45:52 well, that could open up anyway. That could, can't really say what my brain's doing there,Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:01 but yeah,01:46:02 our brains are going there, Devon.
Devon Stack
01:46:03 Yeah, yeah, so the, as far as Patreon, I've never talked to those guys, but I have no reason to dislike him. I think what what I've seen of them is good, and they're white, so that's good too.Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:15 Yeah, Bill Peterson, blonde police host Patriot front leader on your show, Thomas Russo, he is the real deal. I really like him. I had him on the backlash. I'll text him and see if I can't get him on. I think I'm gonna have Arvo on this coming week, and then Blood Satellite. You did their show, right?Devon Stack
01:46:36 Yes.Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:37 So, I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna do an interview with him on my channel in the coming week, glad you got away from the neurotic beta former co-host, which one I got a few I have laid waste to my past male co-hosts that ends now. It's funny, because, like, the idea of betraying Devon horrifies me so much that it's because I respect you that really changes a female behavior. Um, rise white diaspora. 01:47:11 Okay, L Quake 2j says the Feeding Our Future fraud case had 79 people charged. Some other names who have pled guilty, are Aisha Hassan Hussein. Oh, okay, Sara Sharif Osman. Okay, so this is some Somali scam, Fadumo Muhammad Youssef. Damn, so they sent the, the white lady down as a, as a some kind of patty. Is that what you're telling me? 40 some years, she's
Devon Stack
01:47:42 definitely a coal burner.Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:45 Yeah, probably. All right, I'm good over here. I think you got two more.Devon Stack
01:47:49 I got two more. You saidRebecca Hargraves
01:47:51 I think.Devon Stack
01:47:51 Oh, I got one. I think I got one more. Let me see here, unless I'm gonna scroll up, make sure I miss a different one. I got one more. I got, let's see here. Revolver 357 says found out my wife has HDingRebecca Hargraves
01:48:12 disease.Devon Stack
01:48:13 Oh, that was like high def. It's been rough thinking about it, about if my kids get it, it's 5050 basically. Thanks for the reminder of being fucked. Ugh, if you don't, or if you don't laugh,Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:33 that's01:48:33 terrible. I don't know, I'm not going to give you advice, but I'll tell you what I would do in that situation. I would not have children. I just, I just couldn't do it to my kids. 5050 chance of their kids getting a whore.
Devon Stack
01:48:46 I don't know much about that. What's theRebecca Hargraves
01:48:48 Huntington's disease is a genetic disorder that causes like progressive breakdown of nerves in the brain, and so you become like basically in a like early dementia, it's worse than that, because you die, but it starts in your 30s or your 40s.Devon Stack
01:49:11 That sucks.Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:12 It progressively worse is over, like, a decade. You get all these motor things, it's like MS, but considerably worse. Sucks.Devon Stack
01:49:22 Yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:24 I don't know, man. Because your work is not going to be able to help you take care of your kids,Devon Stack
01:49:29 right?Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:30 Because she has Huntington's disease,Devon Stack
01:49:33 and there's no like gene therapy kind of a thing, or something like..Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:36 there's01:49:36 no treatment. Like, once you have it, it's like Lou Gehrig's disease, like you find out you have it, and you're just, you're just toast, you're on a timeline. Yeah,
Devon Stack
01:49:43 gotcha.Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:45 I'm so sorry, man. I'm so sorry. That's such a nightmare, but yeah, I just wouldn't have kids.Devon Stack
01:49:53 Hello, Revolver 337 Hopefully, you know, hopefully you, you get the lucky side of that coin for. Lip, you know the 5050Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:01 yeah, yeah.Devon Stack
01:50:03 Well, I think on that positive note, think we're all cleared up over here. Yeah, God, isRebecca Hargraves
01:50:08 that our last super chat?Devon Stack
01:50:10 That is it.Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:11 Oh man, that's a depressing one to end on. Sorry, Revolver. And sorry, audience, we hope you enjoyed the show. I am Rebecca Hargreaves. You can catch me on my YouTube channel, that is Blonde in the Belly of the Beast. I do a show with Cameron MacGregor, typically on Thursdays at noon. 01:50:27 This week we are filming on Friday at noon, because he's got some, like, I don't know, world traveler scheduling conflict, or whatever the fuck he's doing. So we're filming on Friday. Follow me on X at Blondes underscore tweets, and we will see you next Wednesday. Devon, do you want to give your, yeah, you can follow, they can find
Devon Stack
01:50:47 on X at Black underscore Pilled, and if you go to Black pill.com it'll take you to the Odyssey channel, and also I do a stream on that Odyssey Channel, as well as the Rumble Channel, if you're watching over on Rumble, every Saturday the Insomnia stream, 10 o'clock pm Pacific time, where we cover all kinds of fun stuff, and we're just generally, generally kind of, it's we have fun, we have fun, they would say we like to have fun over there, so join us on Saturday nights anyway. 01:51:23 And next Wednesday we'll be back here at 5o'clock here on Rumble YouTube and on Odyssey. In the meantime, you guys have a good rest of your week.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:51:36 Bye,Devon Stack
01:51:37 bye, bye, bye.