Outlaws: Episode 17, Alan Abel, Jewish Hoaxer - 07/01/2026
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This stream features hosts Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack discussing the life and career of media hoaxer Alan Abel, using a mixture of biographical material, documentary clips, TV excerpts, and their own commentary. They walk through Abel’s background, his mother’s formative FBI incident, and a long series of elaborate stunts and fabricated organizations designed to manipulate the media, push pornography and social taboos, lampoon conservative morals, and undermine high-trust American society. The hosts frame Abel’s work in explicitly anti-Jewish and anti-media terms, arguing that his hoaxes reveal both the credulity of legacy media and the destructive impact of Jewish subversion on norms around decency, pornography, crime, and political discourse, while also interacting with their live chat and reading numerous super chats that branch into topics like crime cases, race, politics, AI video, and pet anecdotes.Intro
00:03:40 You're watching Outlaws with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.Devon Stack
00:03:58 Aha, look at that. I played the intro this time.Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:02 I think we should just continue that discussion that we were having right before we went live. You wish everybody already knows you have a tongue ring,Devon Stack
00:04:12 so what? No, I don't have a.. that was the 90s. I look like it was.. it was cool, for like a minute, for like a minute. I'm never gonna live. See, I knew there's some.. I guess there's certain things I should keep private. That's too lateRebecca Hargraves
00:04:29 now.Devon Stack
00:04:30 I like to just be open and honest about stuff. And then now this is how you repay me with ridicule00:04:37 for sharing, sharing my past, my life with you guys, I'm never gonna hear the end of it.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:44 Come on, don't you, don't you make fun of people that you like. How else would you show friendship to somebody? I don't even understand. I am ruthless. Kindness, my brother, kindness. Oh, now I know you're a faggot, ha. This is Atlas. I'm Rebecca Hargraves.Devon Stack
00:05:02 I'm Devon Stack, and I guess so. Yeah. Anyway, did youRebecca Hargraves
00:05:12 see that some people climbed to the top of the, I almost said Eiffel Tower of the Empire State Building, and it was like the gayest message ever. I just couldn't stop thinking this was such an opportunity to talk about the Jews. It was something gay about love. Let me, let me look it up.Devon Stack
00:05:27 They probably had tongue rings,Rebecca Hargraves
00:05:29 they did. So I picked out.. I heard, let's see.. News. Actually, let me read this really quick.Devon Stack
00:05:39 I forget that. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, what did theRebecca Hargraves
00:05:43 sign say?Devon Stack
00:05:44 I mean, it was like, literally, like the kind of thing. It doesn'tRebecca Hargraves
00:05:47 even make any sense. When the power of love beats the love of power, the world knows peace, like with that many care. That's tweet length, that's like 140 characters. How much stuff could you say about the Jews?Devon Stack
00:06:00 Oh, it reminds me of, like, if you ever go to Goodwill, and you go to, like, where there's, like, the pile of, like, shitty, you know, throw-away photos and framed garbage that, like, girls buy, and then they give Goodwill, yeah, it's like something that would be printed on that, it's like, for $1 you can have, like, this giant quote of faggots, the faggot-ness, like framed in your house, you know, and yeah, and they climb, they risk their life, they risked, and they got arrested, probably, right,Rebecca Hargraves
00:06:34 yeah,Devon Stack
00:06:35 because I don't think that's legal to just climb up there, and I was looking at the video that I saw, and I could be wrong, I don't know exactly the strength of it, but it looked like they were on, like, an antenna tower, and there's which aren't, it's not built to withstand the weight of two different people on it, like it's, you know, it's, and they climbed up that, and I just kept thinking, like, oh, it'd be so funny if that just bent over, like, if it just, like, yeah, I mean, just like fell all the way down and landed on some Jewish couple, like, at the bottom, you know.Rebecca Hargraves
00:07:10 Oh,Devon Stack
00:07:11 but we could onlyRebecca Hargraves
00:07:12 hope. We could only hope. Speaking of Jews, okay? So I heard about this guy, I'd never heard about him, Alan Abel, because I was listening. I listened to a podcast called Criminal, and like, I know that Phoebe Judge is a shit lib and everything, but she's got a really soothing NPR voice. 00:07:27 I like her, boy, who I listen to it sometimes. Phoebe Judge, really big podcast, it's called Criminal, and she was doing this kind of like softball interview with the wife, but found it impossible to cover up or obscure her, like how incredibly Jewy this guy was, and I was like, how much more to this story is there, and guess what, there's a lot, and so I wanted to talk about him. She did an episode on him, like, a year ago, and I, it was the first thing that I put in the notes for our show, but this guy, he was a hoaxer, Devon
Devon Stack
00:08:04 hoaxer,Rebecca Hargraves
00:08:04 a hoaxer, hoaxer.Devon Stack
00:08:05 Everyone, if you're at a computer right now, I want you to type in hoaxter, and then look at the little squiggly red line that develops underneath the word hoaxer, as your computer recognizes that that's not an actual word,Rebecca Hargraves
00:08:18 it's a rarer word than hoaxer. Is you're thinking of huckster, which is also a word.Devon Stack
00:08:24 No, no, I'm thinking you're thinking of trickster, which isRebecca Hargraves
00:08:27 not hoaxer. Is 100% awareDevon Stack
00:08:30 hoaxer is a word, which is whyRebecca Hargraves
00:08:34 he's like it's not a word. It was a terrible,Devon Stack
00:08:37 anyway.Rebecca Hargraves
00:08:38 I could just see him, just the thumbnail was bad.Devon Stack
00:08:41 Yeah, it was bad. Of course, it was bad. And I, to be honest, the one I replaced it with wasn't really great either, because I just didn't have the time. Wait, youRebecca Hargraves
00:08:48 replaced the whole thumbnail?Devon Stack
00:08:50 Yeah, I just.. I just remade it real quick, and then it was like, ah, it's.. it's crap, but it's better than what she gave me. So, whoever, let's just use it.Rebecca Hargraves
00:08:57 You're so mean. See, I'm used to just being praised endlessly for mediocre work, and so I don't really understand how to deal with somebody that tells me that what I do is terrible. I just, I just can't deal with it. I can't.Devon Stack
00:09:11 I would expect you to have that kind of feedback all the time, you know.00:09:18 But
00:09:19 who are you hanging out with Bar? Must be pretty,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:09:24 my simp army. I'm just joking, that's what Cameron always says. I'm like, where, where are all these simps? We understood our super chats this month, and I was like, oh my god, who areDevon Stack
00:09:36 all these people saying you're doing a great job, because I don't see it.Rebecca Hargraves
00:09:39 On that note, Devon is like my dog. The older that he gets, the grumpier he is. So grumpy,Devon Stack
00:09:49 that's because I'm like Devon, an abused dog that was forced into a cardboard box while you played death metal at it for a week and a half.Rebecca Hargraves
00:09:58 Good Lord,Devon Stack
00:09:59 and then he let. It out of the box, and expect it to be your friend. He was nice when we put him in there.Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:06 Well, kindness could fix this one, Devon.Devon Stack
00:10:09 Well, like I said in the beginning, you know, no kindness out there. You get called a faggot, apparently.Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:19 It's not my fault, it just comes out of my mouth, like saying kikery last week. Now all the cards are on the table.Devon Stack
00:10:25 Now we all know, we all know you're anti-Semitic.Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:28 I really am. I, yes, if you didn't know already, wildly anti-Semitic. The jig is up. Get into this guy, the chicken caught me. I truly have never dropped an M bomb, though. In online, never.Devon Stack
00:10:44 Oh, you will. You will.Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:46 I feel like it's time, but like, I don't know. It's just seems so, so, so lewd or something.Devon Stack
00:10:54 Yeah. All right. Well, I'm gonna wipe while you talk.Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:57 Thank you.Devon Stack
00:10:58 You didn't say anything. I was hoping it would cut you off, and you didn't say anything, all right. Well, anyway, there's the handsome little boy himself, right there. There's our, there's our, our boy, the hoaxer, yeah, the Jewish hoaxer.Rebecca Hargraves
00:11:12 Where was he born? Zanesville, Ohio. So, for some reason, I thought this was the same time that you had done a stream on back in the day, another Jewish town in Ohio, but apparently there are several Jews from Germany moved to this town, Zanesville, in the late 1800sDevon Stack
00:11:29 Well, and it's funny because his parents, quite literally, were Jews who came to America from Eastern Europe around the turn of the century. So,Rebecca Hargraves
00:11:38 yeah, you know, like theDevon Stack
00:11:40 pattern is never going to break. It's, it's kind of bizarre, like that. Every one of these people, you don't see, you don't see white people doing this shit, as people will see, like it's kind of crazy. And, in fact, that's why it worked, is because you know white people wouldn't do this sort of a thing, which is exactly why white people are susceptible to this kind of a thing, because they just would expect that, like, well, hold on, we're humans, why would a human lie about that? Oh, you're a Jew, I take back the human thing. So,Rebecca Hargraves
00:12:13 did you read what his parents did for a living?Devon Stack
00:12:16 They ran a store, right? ItRebecca Hargraves
00:12:19 was textile manufacturing.Devon Stack
00:12:22 Oh, I thought they like.. I thought in that one documentary he said something about his mom and dad running a general store or something like that. No, like wayRebecca Hargraves
00:12:31 back in the day, like.. first came, yeah.Devon Stack
00:12:34 Only he's a big liar. So I mean, like seriously, this guy, by the end of it, you'll be like, how can you trust anything that comes out of this guy's mouth? SoRebecca Hargraves
00:12:45 it's so bad. I can't wait for this clip that you have. This is that you're talking point here is his mother taught him a valuable lesson.Devon Stack
00:12:54 Yeah, so here's his mom, yeah, and the good old Ida Abel, and yes, his mom did teach him a valuable lesson as a child. So, oh, look at that, look at that. This, this is.. he did not age well. He did not age well. So, here he is. He's going to basically give you, I think, unintentionally, because this was not - he was not telling the story as a way of explaining, like, how, how he started to choose a path in life, but he got some real insight into the goyim at a young age when his mom abused a, an elderly Nazi. So, let's, let's have a little listen here.Alan Abel
00:13:48 The lady next door took in laundry. She had a big picture of Hitler on the wall. My mother could see it from our living room, and she asked her to take down that picture of Hitler. The lady, who was a refugee from Germany said, 'No, I like Adolf, nice man. 00:14:05 So my mom called the FBI in Cleveland and said, 'I think there's a spy next door because she's got a picture of Hitler in the living room and two car loads of FBI agents come down from Cleveland as a small town of Fish Octon, and they very carefully approached the house to bring this little old lady and an interrogator. She was about 6570 years old, and lived alone, very small lady, maybe weighed 85 pounds.
00:14:36 They scared the bejesus out of her, that's for sure, because she came out hands up in the air, and I was very impressed by the fact my mom made an anonymous call, one phone call to Cleveland, the FBI, and they came out just like gangbusters and did their job.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:54 What did.. what was she doing? She didn't do anything.Devon Stack
00:14:57 Yeah, she had a pictureRebecca Hargraves
00:14:59 for this,Devon Stack
00:14:59 yeah. Her house, she had a picture of Hitler in her house on the wall, and her mom could see it when looking into her house. So, but he learned a valuable lesson, that all you have to do is make an anonymous phone call and say some shit, make up some shit, and you will get results. All you have to do is lie, and you can make things happen,Rebecca Hargraves
00:15:22 that's so outrageous in the privacy of her own home.Devon Stack
00:15:25 Yeah, and he seems to be reveling in the fact that she was like 70 years old and weighed like 80 pounds. She's like this little tiny old lady, and she's terrified by the cops. She's literally a German refugee, right? So she's doesn't have, I mean, I don't even know how, like, how she affords to have any kind of house, whatever, whatever wealth that she would have, she probably spent coming to America, you know, soRebecca Hargraves
00:15:55 she has to be impoverished, but his Jewish wife can come here and he can make a life of wealth with his fucking hoaxes,Devon Stack
00:16:04 right? So he learned a lesson that he can basically manipulate Americans, white Americans by lying, and so that's.. I thought that was that was kind of interesting. Then he grew up, he looks so juicy in that, in that photo, that's just, you know, the Junius. 00:16:27 Anyway, he became a drummer. He was actually a pretty good drummer, from what I understand, and he went on to do, like, a one-man show where he was trying to be kind of a comedian, like he would do, like a one man drum show, which I mean, that not, not a big audience for something like that, I would imagine, like I don't think there's a lot of people like lining up to go see, hey, there's a guy that that drums on stage, yeah, like talks about drumming history, like that's literally what his bit was, like it was, he talked about the history of drums, while drumming, and then like telling jokes, and but anyway, not not super successful, but he wanted to be into comedy, he wanted to be a comedy writer, and he couldn't figure out really a way to do it, and this guy's never held a real job in his life, by the way. I thought this was kind of funny.
00:17:25 This is another clip where his daughter basically says that he's never worked ever in his life.
Alan Abel's Daughter
00:17:33 My dad never had what you would call a real job. He did briefly in the 50s, selling liquid fertilizer, but that only lasted one day,Devon Stack
00:17:43 so he's worked one day his entire life.Rebecca Hargraves
00:17:50 No, he's worked two days, I think he had like another job he got fired from,Devon Stack
00:17:54 from like a day. Yeah, so this guy has basically.. here's.. here's what I found odd, and Walt, to talk about this, but there's a lot of these scams he does that would require a decent amount of money to pull off, and they don't have any obvious means of actually making money, you know what I mean, and so it's like, Who's paying for this stuff, because, like, he has the money to pull off this big hoax, but the hoax doesn't generate any cash. 00:18:25 It's not like he's like one of these Jews that does like a Ponzi scheme, where it's like it's making millions of dollars.
00:18:33 It's more just like to fuck with the heads of Americans and to break some kind of taboo or something like that, or social engineering, and you know, also like, he, he's not super wealthy towards, I mean, he ended up getting some money later, but, like, around the time when they shot this documentary, for example, this is, I think, 2006 or so, they lived in someone's basement, he and his wife, because he didn't have any money, and the funny thing, and he and his wife both refused to work. She never worked either. She would help him do his hoaxes, and she was a hoaxing
Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:12 accomplish accomplice. The daughter talks about it, and, like, oh, well, my mom had her other projects, never stating what they, what they reallyDevon Stack
00:19:20 right, well, and they even train their kid daughter to work on some of these hoaxes,Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:25 yep,Devon Stack
00:19:25 so but anyway, so moving, moving on, I guess that's what he is famous for, obviously, is is is hoaxing, and he talks about how the reason why he does these hoax hoaxes and the reason why he tries to get media attention and tries to get on as many tv screens as possible, I mean, it's not the same now, but, like, you know, this, his, you know, his most active period was, like, you know, 60s through. 00:20:00 90s, and so that's, you know, that TV was where it was at during that time period, was to get as many eyeballs on his message and his whatever moral he was pushing, or whatever taboo he was trying to break. So there was a clip of him saying,
Alan Abel
00:20:17 if I saw a network show that might be a prime target for one of my spoofs. I lined them up in my sights immediately, because I was aware of the fact that the larger the network, the bigger the audience, the better it was to promote your cause,Devon Stack
00:20:33 to promote your cause.Rebecca Hargraves
00:20:36 What, and what causes that? Pray tell,Devon Stack
00:20:39 what cause could that possibly be so well. Let's, let's have, let's see what one of his causes,Alan Abel
00:20:48 the Society to Clothe All Naked Animals for the Sake of Decency, or Cinna, S I N A.Devon Stack
00:20:56 So this was a fake organization that he created the Society for Indecency to Naked Animals. He made it as a parody, trying to lampoon white Americans that didn't want pornography, that wanted to censor television and not have nudity on television, and so he decided to create this fake organization that would sound ridiculous. He pretended basically he pretended to be a Christian right-wing organization that was super crazy, and then he would go on TV show after TV, like, because lots of TV shows, I mean, they just thought that this was real. I mean, it was a totally made-up organization, and theRebecca Hargraves
00:21:48 buddy that he had play, the actor that he had play the president, was a goy,Devon Stack
00:21:54 right? Right. So, and here's another example, like what I'm talking about, like he had, he had enough money to hire an airplane to drop leafletsRebecca Hargraves
00:22:05 that must be wildly expensive.Devon Stack
00:22:07 This is what I'm talking about, like he somehow, like he just creates this fake organization that, so that lefties basically can point at it and be like, look at these psychopaths, and even like the right wing people, if they see that on TV, you're like, all right, well, that's too far. 00:22:23 And so that's which was the whole point, that what you know, he's trying to break the taboo and say, well, this is what you guys look like when you do this, and everyone's like, well, I don't want to be like that.
00:22:32 I mean, he was basically doing the opposite of fed posting, you know, he and so people don't want to be associated with that, and so now all of a sudden they're like, whoa, maybe porno is okay, but you know that's that's but that's what that's what he was doing, and but yeah, he went so far as to hiring, or not hiring, having one, this is his wife, by the way, his wife was protesting, pretending to be a member of this organization, protesting in front of the White House, and to show you how long this guy was doing this shit.
00:23:10 This is during the Kennedy administration.
00:23:13 Okay, so he's doing this as early as the 60s. This is one of his friends, clothe all animals for the sake of decency, so this is they're doing this in the 1960s pretending to be these right-wing psychos, and then he wanted to get someone that would look more like a gentile, and so he got one of his friends, an out of work actor, to pretend to be the president of the organization and made up a fake name, made up fake credentials, forged a bunch of documents, and then approached all these media outlets who were, of course, happy to have him on, because the, oh, this is kind of a crazy guy, this will be weird, and I suspect I suspect a lot of Jews were probably in on the joke and knew exactly what was going on, and so they had him on.
00:24:05 So, here's a clip of the president, the fake president of Cinna, and even the name Cinna,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:24:13 Cinna, yeah,Devon Stack
00:24:14 they know what they're doing.Alan Abel
00:24:16 He was unemployed at that time as an actor, and of course he wanted to write, but he hadn't really written anything yet, so when I thought of launching the campaign, and said, "Hey, Buck, all you have to is pose as a moral maniac called G. Clifford Prout, the head of this nonexistent organization. And Buck soon found himself appearing on a dozen shows.Buck Henry
00:24:35 Well, during the days of the ancient Vikings, in the great drinking halls where they held their feasts, they had huge dogs with long hair that were used as napkins,Alan Abel
00:24:44 and then when somebody wanted to have an interview, either I did it or Buck Henry did it, as G. Clifford Prout, and we carried on this way to the point where I began to realize that it's like a snowball, you start rolling it and it gets larger and larger and larger and larger and wide. Oh, and now suddenly you have a dinosaur in your backyard.Devon Stack
00:25:04 Yeah, so again, he several TV appearances. This is before the internet, guys. So, when you guys talk to boomers and wonder, like, why they believe so many lies, these were the.. this was the media, just like believing this guy, like they didn't, they didn't realize this was a totally made up organization, that this guy wasn't even like that wasn't even his real name, people, this was a high trust society that was like really all right, he thinks that you should put pants on a horse, you know, which is literally one of the things he was saying was that you need to put pants on a horse, and one of theRebecca Hargraves
00:25:41 most insidious things about his, his hoaxes was that they were all kind of adorable, which allowed them to be more subversive, because they were kind of sliding in under the radar in a really trusting and wholesome society,Devon Stack
00:25:56 right? Right, and in fact, a lot of people started sending in money to his organ, like, not a whole lot, but a little bit of money to donate to his organization. 00:26:07 Chapters start opening up in other parts of the country, which it's hard to know, like, was that another Jew doing that? Was it some psycho that was like, we should need to put pants on horses, you know, like, who knows who's doing that, but it's, you know, the, it's crazy that this went on for as long as it did, because it went on for, like, almost like a full decade.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:26:33 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:26:33 so here's a clip of him talking about how it's all about the moral message that he's trying to push,Alan Abel
00:26:41 I like to think that poking fun at something is really just a cover. It's just the skin, the surface underneath that surface, or skin is a message, a moral message. In the case of Cinna, right away, it's contradictory, because we're for it in the title, and yet I was against it. So that's a clue that there must be something wrong here, that it could be a joke,Devon Stack
00:27:04 yeah, or it could be you are trying to manipulate people with your, with your performance art, or whatever you want to call it. So, yeah, he's pushing a moral message, and here's a picture of a parade float that he didn't have anything to do with. This was just literally some other group, I think it was like in Texas or something, created a their own chapter, a Sinnoh chapter, and made a parade float. 00:27:37 So he was just like, I don't even do that. Someone else sent me this picture, so it was spreading, and then he makes it clear. In fact, I've actually played this video here. This, you can find on YouTube, I forget what it's called, but this was one of the first videos trying to address porn, and I forget who put it out, but it was basically profit, like good propaganda. There was this guy showing that, like, hey, look, we got porn legalized in some of these states, it's becoming a problem.
00:28:13 We got it, we got to, we got to shut this down before it gets crazy. I mean, if this guy could see today, I mean, his brain would explode because just the stuff he was talking about was like PG 13, you know, and so they, they, this is exactly what Abel was trying to counteract with his, you know, so-called lampooning of decency,
Narrator
00:28:40 a flood tide of filth is engulfing our country in the form of newsstand obscenity. ItAlan Abel
00:28:46 was a commentary on censorship. If we're going to censor books in the library that might seem salacious, then why don't we censor those animals who are out there being naked, and that's what allegorical satire is all about.Rebecca Hargraves
00:29:01 Nope, that's that's not what he was trying to do. As we will come to find out later, he was talking about hardcore explicit pornography, including group sex.Devon Stack
00:29:12 Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, so the, you know, after you know, he hates, he hates the anti-porn movement that was building, because, you know, guess what, Jews are the pornographers, and they were the ones that were trying to get rich with the pornography, and so he was just a voice against quote unquote censorship. 00:29:36 Oh, this is speech, you're impact, you're, you know, you're trying to stop free speech, and he realized with the success of this fake organization how easy, just like he learned when he was a kid watching his mom call the FBI on a little old lady from Germany for having a Hitler photo on her wall. Inside of her home, he realized that, you know, these trusting fools will literally believe anything.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:30:06 Yeah. Oh, sorry. This is exactly what Sam Roth did. Like, before we had to deal with these Jews, people just wouldn't push it. They just didn't even venture to the boundaries of what was socially acceptable. And then they just had to come in here and just start pushing it all the time. Sorry, go ahead.Devon Stack
00:30:26 Right? No, I think that that's the thing that people don't realize is, for example, there's - you don't need a rule for things that you don't think anyone's like, no one's going to do that. 00:30:38 Why would we need a law for that? Why would I? Why would he need a law against having sex with the horse, you know, like, who's gonna fucking do that? And then someone does it, and you're like, ah, well, it's not illegal, because we didn't think anyone would do that.
00:30:49 So now we have to, now we have to make a law against that, and that's what happens with America, is like, you bring in all these fucking psychopaths, and eventually you have to have laws against, like, not fucking horses and things like this, because you know the psychopaths are doing it.
Alan Abel
00:31:06 Promoting Cinna gave me the understanding that with very little funds and very few props with a straight face, you can convince America and the media that you have this crazy movement.Devon Stack
00:31:21 Yeah, just all you have to do is have a clipboard, and people think that you are supposed to be there,Rebecca Hargraves
00:31:28 right? I mean, this was also very clever, because everybody wants to see an indictment of the media, that's appealing, but this wasn't an indictment of the media, all of his tricks, they were an indictment of goy way of life, and having high trust societies, and it was an expression of him being an outsider as a Jew, and being a moral outsider, and that's why he did these things. He was, he was a lot like Sam Roth, except he had the funnies.Devon Stack
00:31:53 Well, and that's the thing, is you'll see a lot of people try to act as if this guy was some great, you know, exposure of the media, like that's how they try to frame it, because he's lying to the media. The media often, you'll see a bunch, there's a bunch of examples, we're gonna get to, he'll lie to the media, the media will cover his lie as if it's real, and then you know, he'll be like, haha, I was all a trick, or like they find out it was a trick, or whatever, and so there's a lot of people that go, oh, he exposed the incompetence of them. 00:32:22 It's like, no, he's just a liar, you know. He, he's just, he's a liar, and he's, he's committing a fraud on the American people, you know. And, yeah, should that, does that, should the media do a better job? Sure, but I mean, that's like saying I rob banks to, because the cops are incompetent, I'm trying to expose how incompetent the cops are by robbing the bank and getting away with it. It's like, well, you're also robbing a bank, though, you know. And so doesn't matter anyway, because
Rebecca Hargraves
00:32:52 even back then the media was Jewish,Devon Stack
00:32:54 right? Right. And well, and still is, obviously. So, well, speaking of Jewish, you you want to talk about this? ARebecca Hargraves
00:33:05 clip. Sorry, I thought you were playing a clip. So, he also did a fake presidential campaign for Yetta Bronstein. She was this fictional housewife from the Bronx, and the slogans for her were, 'Vote for Yetta, things will get better, and she obviously had, like, ridiculous platforms, bingo national bingo, White House suggestion box, and his wife portrayed her in interviews, so she was really in on this as well, and he used a photo of his mother, Ida, for this. So, I think we have a pic picture of that.Devon Stack
00:33:38 I don't have a picture of her. Oh, well, it was the one that was shown in the very beginning,Rebecca Hargraves
00:33:42 that there, yeah, yeah. And I think that this one was taken less seriously than the others. It didn't pick up as much. It was as though as the one we're about to talk about. I think it was like a little too ridiculous,Devon Stack
00:33:54 but the thing that I was, again, that's another question mark. They were like, oh yeah, we did a radio show, and I'm like, hold on. So, like, in the 1960s you just got on the radio somehow. Like, how did you have a radio show?Rebecca Hargraves
00:34:11 Yeah,Devon Stack
00:34:11 yeah, like, like, didn't have public access back then, and you know, it's not like you could just, well, go to the radio station, like, hey guys, can I do a radio show? Like, it's, it wasn't like YouTube, or anyone can just have a stream. How the fuck did you just do a radio show? Because that's that's what he talks about, but they never explain like how this was accomplished, where he could just do a radio show and pretend like that there's some Jewish woman was running for president and try out some of his other hoaxes, and heRebecca Hargraves
00:34:40 obviously had some institutional investment and some connections to get these things right. He obviously did, and I guarantee they were Jews.Devon Stack
00:34:50 Yeah, there's no possible way. He just, he's just magically, you know, on the radio to do his hoaxes. So, anyway, so that was. One of his, one of his hoaxes, they did a fake presidential campaign. Reporters would call him up, and he would say, "Oh, well, you know, she's at home, I'm the campaign manager, and he managed to keep it going, at least for like a little bit. People, people kind of believed it, and he learned a lot. 00:35:18 He learned a lot from that, you know, that hoax on how to improve things and and make stories more believable, so another thing, again, this goes back to, like, how the fuck did he do this? He just gets on TV on WNBC, which was the New York station, you know, that was the flagship station for NBC, and he just casually mentions, oh yeah, and then back in the early 70s, I decided I would start doing responses to editorials, and I would just take the opposite position, no matter what, I wouldn't care, and just argue whatever, just to stir things up, so he
Rebecca Hargraves
00:36:03 appear as himself in this, in this one.Devon Stack
00:36:06 Yeah, I think I think this is he's being him. If he's not being him, he might, I mean, because a lot of times he would get on the television by faking his credentials and pretending to be someone else, but I don't think that's the case for this, but it just, it's weird that because he acts as if, like, anyone could just go to WNBC and be like, "Yeah, can I just go on the air and like respond to an editorial? It's like, "Who? What, you can't just do that? Like, no, you can't just do that. And yet he could. And so, for example, this is what he's arguing,Alan Abel
00:36:43 and I thought I'll respond to them if they say one thing, I'll say the other. It's just an exercise, having fun, and sometimes making a point. So, let's accept pornography and enforce the constitutional right of people to see, hear, smell, and touch without restriction. Establish Times Square as a legal zone for peep shows, erotic stores, and porno flicks,Devon Stack
00:37:04 so he was responding to an editorial saying that they need to get rid of all the porn that is in New York. Oh, and just surprise, oh, just, you know, it's just an exercise, I would just take in the opposite position by trying to deal,Rebecca Hargraves
00:37:18 manning, yeah, right, right,Devon Stack
00:37:20 yeah, no, and as you'll see later, no. He definitely is into porn, and was trying to legalize porn, and the way we know this is he made a movie called Is There Sex After Death.Rebecca Hargraves
00:37:37 Yes, he did. Do you have any? Go ahead.Devon Stack
00:37:41 No, I was just.. it was basically a porno,Rebecca Hargraves
00:37:44 yeah, a hardcore pornography. What were you saying before we went live? They like, it's on you, some of it's on YouTube. It's just like..Devon Stack
00:37:51 yeah. So I was.. yeah, I saw so many dicks that I didn't want to see, because, like, there's clips of it on YouTube, and there's just like, not only is there just dicks, there's like group sex and stuff, and they, they're, I guess, telling jokes while there's like hardcore porno going on in the, in the shot, but he and his wife funded this movie called Is There Sex After Death. and, and try to get it in theaters, and, obvious, I mean, it was, I'm not joking, like it's full frontal, and not just that, there's there's group sex, like actual actual sex going on in several of the shots, and in order to promote it, because obviously it's basically porno, you can't get it promoted, and it was hard for him to get it in newspapers or or anything like that. 00:38:53 He made up this hoax where he said that there was going to be a sex Olympics that was going to be just for the rich, like, uh, like an Epstein kind of a situation, right? Like, there's gonna be a bunch of rich people that would go into some auditorium, and then on the stage there'd be a bunch of people having sex, and they would judge them, like it'd be people from different countries, and all this other stuff, and, and newspapers believed it, and they were reporting on it, and and he tries to make it sound like, oh, they were idiots who are believing it.
00:39:26 The reason they believed it, so this is this is from his movie, and I'll tell you this shot immediately after this shot, they all disrobe and they get on those those tables and they start having sex, like, and look in a way that looks like they're being judged. Yeah, so that's in his movie, and he showed the clip, saying this is a clip of what the what the competition is going to be like, and people believed it, and it's like, well, of course they believe that. You showed him video of it. You know, like,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:40:00 yeah.Devon Stack
00:40:01 Well, I'd believe it if I, if I, because I'd be like, "Well, where else would you get this footage? I wouldn't think that you were some weird porno Jew that just had access to footage like that because you were shooting some weird scumbag movie. I'd be like, "What the videoRebecca Hargraves
00:40:13 was everything? If there was video evidence of something, it was irrefutable, but, but he made all these claims about the sex Olympics, like that were kind of preposterous, like that it was an athletic and spectator sport, and that there were judging categories like gracefulness, grossness, potency, and mutual respect. And then he also added that there were going to be like tears for a two minute climax, like different heats. That's in the movie,Speaker 2
00:40:40 though,Rebecca Hargraves
00:40:41 yeah, it's all in the movie.Devon Stack
00:40:43 It's in the movie,Rebecca Hargraves
00:40:44 but he, the way he portrays this at interviews is that, like, well, I had all these ridiculous, you know, ridiculous judging categories, and that's why everybody kind of should have figured it out, but, but the footage, I mean, if you saw this back then, you would have been like nobody would question it,Devon Stack
00:41:02 yeah, because how else would you, because it is porno, like it's hardcore porno, and the thing is, like, if you're some think about it, you're just some normal white person in 1972 and you're not, you know, you're not a porno Jew, you might not have, you probably haven't even seen porno in your life, and some porno juice you'veRebecca Hargraves
00:41:24 seen nudie mags or something. Yeah, maybe,Devon Stack
00:41:27 but not even like, I don't even think that was like, like a given, you know what I mean. And so some some guy comes into your newsroom, it's like, look, I got footage of like the secret, you know, porno Olympics that the rich people go to, you're like, 'Holy shit, what the fuck is this? You know, and which is exactly what he did. So that created hardRebecca Hargraves
00:41:49 to get porno back then. Like, we talked about Times Square. The people that were watching porno were putting a dirty nickel into, into some kind of slot in time, in like disgusting Times Square to watch 30 seconds of a hardcore porno, or to watch like nudie girls, it wasn't, it wasn't like it is now,Devon Stack
00:42:08 right? Like the through the glass, like they had like the little viewing rooms, where it was basically like a strip club, only there was like you were in this little masturbation hut with like a window into like some room with a girl stripping. Only reason I know this in detail now is I saw a movie recently, I wish I remember the name of it. 00:42:36 It was from 1980 and it got, it got really good of views, total shit movie, but it's about this guy that has like this estranged wife, and then he goes to try to track her down, and he finds her in one of these like establishments, and it was just so quaint, you know, in terms of, you know, like it was from 1980 and the fact that he's going into, like, some booth, and then he has it's almost like you ever see people in, you know, like, well, you know, obviously, like prison interviews, right, where they've got the phone, and you pick up the phone, you're talking to the glass, so it was, it was like that, so there's like a phone in this, in the masturbation booth, basically, and you pick it up, and you talk, and it's like you're on a loudspeaker inside, like the protective strip room that the girl is in, so you don't attack
Rebecca Hargraves
00:43:33 prostitute,Devon Stack
00:43:35 no, it was called fuck, I'd have to look in, it's got it's got the guy from Alien in it, the guy that's like the skinny engineer guy that gets killed like real fast. I don't, I'll have to find it, but it's this real, it's it's really it's one of these avant-garde movies. 00:44:02 Oh, it's also got the guy from Quantum Leap, the guy that plays not, not, not Sam, but the guy that's always got the little Palm Pilots, all Sam, Sam, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put you in that, whatever, blah blah, you know, like, oh, you have to act like you're retarded, like that guy, he's, he's like one of the main characters, I don't know the character's name, but you guys know I'm talking about, and somebody in the
Rebecca Hargraves
00:44:25 live chat has to know this.Devon Stack
00:44:26 Yeah, but the movie is just.. it's just like it's so you can tell that, like, boomers thought this was like really, you know, art house cool, you know, inRebecca Hargraves
00:44:37 Paris, Texas.Devon Stack
00:44:38 Yes, yes, it was. Yes, it was.Rebecca Hargraves
00:44:41 Thank you. Live chat,Devon Stack
00:44:42 yes, it was. Yeah, so there's like this scene where he goes to talk to like his crack whore ex-wife who's abandoned her kid, and like the ending, so the whole movie is just awful. But it was00:44:54 just
00:44:54 a lot of it takes place in this booth because she doesn't know it's him, and he's like talking to her through the. Own thing, and everything, and the whole time I'm just thinking, like, this was porn back in 1980 like, yeah, when this little fucking booth, and picked up a phone, and, and you know, did shameful things in a little booth, but anyway, so this, this Jew here is trying to normalize this stuff, and trying to get this kind of stuff in theaters, and trying to break that taboo by putting it in comedy, you know, trying.. oh no, because that was his whole excuse.
00:45:30 He's like, all these people were saying it's porn, but it was really just a comedy.
00:45:33 It's like, up, come on, just because you say a joke in a porn doesn't make it a comedy, okay? So, but anyway, then there was protesters, and that he capitalized on that, and by the time it actually played in the theater, the line was around the corner to get in, because he had succeeded, he had manipulated the goyim into wanting to see his his dirty movie by making it sound like it was this big crazy no no thing, this big taboo, oh, you can't watch it, and they they packed the theater,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:18 yep, yeah, he did this with the with Nixon too, which I'm sure he hated Nixon, because Nixon was famously anti-Semitic,Devon Stack
00:46:27 right?Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:28 But he made a movie about Nixon, he dubbed Nixon's audio, and then, like, I think mixed in some parts, like spliced some parts of Nixon, and there was an impersonator, and he faked having these missing Nixon tapes, so the media showed up, and he just, at the time, pretended like they had also been erased. This, this 18 and a half, here he is from the WatergateDevon Stack
00:46:56 Max, Harry, that's him in his rapist mask,Rebecca Hargraves
00:47:01 and then he made a promotional. This was promotional as well, because he made another mockumentary called The Faking of the President. So, I think a lot of his hoaxes were for self-promotion of a project that he was working on.Devon Stack
00:47:15 Yeah, so this, the, and the project that he project he was working on was again trying to lampoon Nixon, especially at a time when he was unpopular because the Watergate scandal was going on, but yeah, he announced that, like, oh, I've got the missing 18 minutes in the Nixon tapes, all the media shows up expecting to hear it, he, and then he goes to play the tape, and it's, it's erased, and he's like, "Oh my god, they got to me. 00:47:45 Yeah, I can't believe how did they erase the tape, that's crazy. And, and media outlets reported on it, they thought as if this was like a real thing, and this just goes to show you, like, how fucking easy this is one Jew. One Jew is manipulating national media on a regular basis, and here's another thing that's crazy, too.
00:48:11 And this is why the internet - it's good that the internet exists now - is this little like this rape mask that he's this very disturbing mask that he wears, he ends up wearing this during like hoaxes for like 40 years, and no one puts together, oh, it's the, it's the guy with the crazy rape mask that, like, for like 20 years has been wearing this mask, acting like different people in different roles, like, no one puts this shit together.
00:48:44 They're just like, "Oh, he has to wear the mask because he's in the witness protection program. Oh, he has to wear the mask because he's a whistleblower. And it's like the craziest fucking mask, too. It's not even just like a little weird. There's like a fake note, like that little nose that's on it. It's a fake rubber nose that he glued
Rebecca Hargraves
00:49:02 to it. Oh, really? Yeah, that's just his nose poking through.Devon Stack
00:49:04 No, it's like this weird rubber nose he's stuck on the front of. It's like, like, it's terrifying. This mask, if I want.. if I.. if I saw anyone walking down the street with a mask like that, and I was carrying, I'd have to drop them, because I'd be like, that guy is about to do something really easy toRebecca Hargraves
00:49:22 murder me. Yeah,Devon Stack
00:49:23 he has to go, and that's by a different time back then. So next,Rebecca Hargraves
00:49:31 he has another adorable little scheme, much like the animals wearing pants. So, in 1972 he bandages himself somehow. He gets, okay, this was at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. Somehow he is able to hold a press conference at this at this prestigious hotel.Devon Stack
00:49:51 Yeah, again, how does that work? Again,Rebecca Hargraves
00:49:53 there are no questions asked. He pretends to be Howard Hughes, completely bandaged, and says that. He's planning on cryogenic freezing, and he'll awake in 30 years when the environment is germless. Then there's a secondDevon Stack
00:50:07 look at all these people, look, all these people showed up.Rebecca Hargraves
00:50:10 Yeah, and it's revealed at that second press conference that it's Alan Abel,Devon Stack
00:50:18 but it's crazy.Rebecca Hargraves
00:50:19 What kind of calls was this guy making right, get a press like, what do you even do? You're like, uh, I'm Howard Hughes, and I'm gonna have a press conference. Like, how did he get the hotel to book it? How did he get the media there? How did he get a conference scheduled? This guy, this guy had some people on the inside,Devon Stack
00:50:39 and all of the New York media showed up and reported onRebecca Hargraves
00:50:43 it. Yeah, next up we have Idi Amin Wedding Hoax. This one was very obvious. I can't believe anybody fell for this, but he posed as, as this, you know, he was like, "I love Idi Amin, so he posed as one of his fans, hoping to get him citizenship, the United States, and he orchestrated this elaborate green card wedding between this guy, who looks like kind of looks like idiomy, but he just found him on the subway, and a young boy, of course, white Anglo-Saxon Protestant woman, you know, these were all actors, and then this guy he found on the subway, and then there was a lavish ceremony that took place at the Plaza Hotel, the Plaza Hotel. 00:51:33 How did he fund this? Well, back then, a wedding at the Plaza Hotel must have just cost.. well, just
Devon Stack
00:51:38 think of the whole operation, so he had all these actors who, what are they all just working for free? I don't know, maybe I guess, but he had actors to play all the security, the fake security detail that went with him. He had the limo service to pull up with this guy with the security guards. 00:51:59 He had to get costumes that would make him look like this guy, you know, had to get the costumes for the security guards, he had to rent the location, you know, he had to, like, you know, to put it on a show that at least is passable enough for the media to show up and report on it.
00:52:16 It has, I mean, that's not like, I've trust me, I've shot independent films, I know how much it cost us to do like some shitty little scene where I'm not trying to convince like the media that it's real, you know, where I control the camera, and even that it's tough because I'm getting like actors out of Craigslist for fucking nothing, right? So this guy is somehow, you know, leveraging actors that can keep a straight face, and like, under pressure, too, which is not easy, you know.
00:52:46 They have, like, a bunch of actual reporters taking pictures and questioning you while you are lying, you know. You have to have, like, to have a room full of liars that are professional liars that can keep a straight face, not break character, is pretty crazy, and it's not just this - this is over and over and over again. He does these hoaxes, and again the media reports on it, acts as if it's, you know, if it's real,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:53:13 and he fools the State Department too. I think that they showed up to the wedding, yeah, the FBI show, ICIA, yeah, yeah, yeah. look at that. Then he, then, of course, he fakes his own death. So the story behind this is that he heard he heard some people that he had been working with, were they reporters or something like it wasDevon Stack
00:53:39 no, they were they were studio executives want to buy the buy the right thing on his debt, right?Rebecca Hargraves
00:53:47 Yes, to get to get the rights of some of his stuff, and his, and his movies, and things like that. They kind of put a price on him, so he decides that he wants revenge, and he fakes his own death, according to the papers at the time. He died of a heart attack while skiing in Utah. Now, this seems like something that would have been pretty easy to do, of all of his, of all of his stuff. 00:54:08 This, this seems like one of the easier ones to orchestrate, and he had, like, a fake widow come out, and everything like that. And the New York Times actually published his opiate in 1980 and he held a press, a press conference a little bit later, and he said, you know, the famous Mark Twain quote, reports of my demise have been grossly exaggerated, exaggerated, and the New York Times actually had to print a retraction, an obit retract obituary retraction on this one, but yeah,
Devon Stack
00:54:41 in fact, that's the only one they've ever had to, to doRebecca Hargraves
00:54:45 well. Why would they really investigate those? I mean,Devon Stack
00:54:48 right? You, I mean, why, why would, yeah, exactly. So then, in 1984 he starts a fake, another fake group called Females for. Felons, and it's supposed to be a group that is providing sexual relations to men behind bars as a form of rehabilitation, so he's providing basically hookers to two convicts who are in prison, and he said itRebecca Hargraves
00:55:21 was a junior league of women, so like non-prostitute,Devon Stack
00:55:26 right? Just like volunteer women, basically.Rebecca Hargraves
00:55:29 Yeah, like normal goy housewives doing this,Devon Stack
00:55:32 right? So he's trying to act as if he's defiling, you know, white women to have sex with these convicts, but the other thing again, y'all, he always, he's trying to do some kind of social commentary, right? Like, he never just does this for the lulls, I mean, maybe some of these smaller ones, but, like, he even, he says with this one specifically, that the reason why he did it was because he was trying to draw attention to the bad treatment that that prisoners get behind bars, and so he was given an opportunity. 00:56:06 This was the way that he would be, he could get airtime, and then once he got airtime, he could actually sneak in some of his real talking points about how bad it is for people in prison, even though he was being over the top with his, like, and so therefore we give them hookers, he was saying a lot of of his rhetoric that he, that he wanted to say from the heart, and then he would just kind of sandwich it with this crazy shit, so that he could actually get on TV, so this is
Rebecca Hargraves
00:56:38 Jewish too, because they always, I shouldn't say always, but they downplay recidivism rates, and they are their advocates for a criminal justice reform, because they want, you know, chaos in the streets,Devon Stack
00:56:51 and Harry, and then he goes with a another rape mask, like this is again, it's like a fucking Batman villain shit, like this is like I feel like this guy should be, you know, murdering someone in this video we're about to watch, but this is him pretending to be a representative of this organization, and again, this is a different mask, but same weird nose thing.Show Host
00:57:17 He is here to talk about a program that he has gotten started that grew out of his own experiences in the prison, it's called Females for Felons, and this is the man who's behind it, wearing a mask today because he is in the federal witness protection program. Good morning. Thanks for coming.Alan Abel
00:57:32 My pleasure of being here. I felt while being incarcerated, you're given a certain amount of food, your punishment is you've given up your freedom, you're giving up everything. You've given your credit cards up. You can't make phone calls. You can't really do anything anymore. 00:57:47 You are trapped like an animal, and yet you're given a certain amount of medicine, exercise, you're given a certain amount of entertainment. But the one area that you're being denied is sexual gratification. In prisons, we've got literally 1000s of good guys who realize a mistake, like I realized mine. I paid for it, I paid for it, but why should I be denied the one area that could truly be a reward and uplifting?
Show Host
00:58:10 What do you think, Fred? It's an interesting, it's a very interesting presentation.Morton Downey Jr.
00:58:15 What you're saying is nothing more than cheapening sex. You're saying to guys, because you're in prison, boys, we're going to get you taken care of, and you're taking a bunch of nice women and turning them into trance. AbsolutelyAlan Abel
00:58:32 not. Absolutely not. What we're saying is, you give a modicum of food, health, shelter, exercise, but you deny the one ingredient that will help rebuild your infiltration, and that is sex. Why not? As a reward, we cannot build enough cells to house all the prisoners that we're going to have cells to build eachMorton Downey Jr.
00:58:55 and every one of them a little B day, so they're little.Alan Abel
00:58:58 Asking for that,Devon Stack
00:59:04 so he really took advantage of, like, this talk show in, like, the Jerry Springer application, I guess, of television that was starting to take place too, because all these shows wanted weird, crazy guests, and he would, he was a willing play, you know, he would willingly play that role, and they wouldn't ask very many questions. 00:59:24 That, in fact, it was way easier to get past, you know, the producers of a show like Jerry Springer than it would be at on Dateline or something like that. But if you listen to that, that was another, that was an example of him kind of peppering in his actual talking points, surrounded by crazy, where he was like, you know, there's not going to be enough prison cells for all the prisoners we're going to have by the year 2000 like he really did believe that we were throwing everybody in jail, and that, like, you know, that we need to have better accommodations for prisoners, and that was so, that was like. Is I guess the subtext of his, of his performance art.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:00:06 Good Lord, so outrageous.Devon Stack
01:00:10 Yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:00:10 who was that? ThatDevon Stack
01:00:14 I forget the name of this show, but let's see here. Here's, but here's the point, though. Like, look at this. This is this is a white woman, a high-trust white woman who believes that that's true. Well, why would he lie? Yeah, why would he lie?Rebecca Hargraves
01:00:27 Yeah,Devon Stack
01:00:29 I've seen this guy, was he was like a shock host back in the early 80s, and I've seen you can almost see it, the something.. yeah, I don't know that it was, it was probably syndicated, but it didn't play, or at least not. I mean, I never saw it on TV, but so it didn't play ride lived ever. 01:00:51 So I don't know, I don't, but I've seen clips of this on YouTube when, because he's had other controversial guests, which often times are white nationalists, right? So, when I've looked for
Rebecca Hargraves
01:01:02 Downey,Devon Stack
01:01:03 yeah, I'mRebecca Hargraves
01:01:05 also unfamiliar with this guy, this Phil Donahue show thing. I missed this in my research. What happened here?Devon Stack
01:01:13 So, the Donahue thing, it's.. it's kind of.. it's kind of boring, which is why I don't have a clip of it, because the clips were all kind of weird, so here's the thing, I couldn't understand, like he tried to make it sound like he was, he was, even though he's literally producing the low brow rage content that he's pretending that he's against, he said that he was, he was mad because just for to grab for ratings,01:01:46 Donahue was having an episode about people in their 70s and 80s who were just coming out as gay publicly, and they were going to come out as gay on his show, and he was like, this is just, you know, like Grug brain retard stuff to grab ratings, and so he and a bunch of actors, again, like, where is he getting these people? Show up, and then they would raise their hand to ask a question, and then when he would go up, you know, Donahue would go up to put the microphone on their face, they pretended to faint, and one after another, this happened until Donahue started getting paranoid, like,
01:02:24 "What the fuck is going on? and they evacuated the studio, and they continued the show without a student, without an audience, just because it was a live show, right, so they couldn't, what else are they going to do, and but it ended up giving, here's the funny thing, is he says, is oh, it's because I wanted to make a statement against garbage TV, ends up being huge ratings, makes all it does, it does exactly what a guy like him would know it would do, because this is what he always did to get attention for his stuff, and so this, this excuse that, like, oh, I hated garbage TV, and so this was my way to protest it, that you did exactly what you would have done to promote something, because that's that's what ended up happening.
01:03:11 It was in all the TV show, like evening news shows, even locally across the country, that, oh, Donahue was doing a show, and all these people were fainting, and like all the newspapers the next day, like, oh my god, like Donahue was doing a show, like eight people fucking faint that it was crazy, and one of the things that was crazy, and it kind of gives you an idea, as to, like, gives you a window into the psychology of Americans, he said that maybe this is true, maybe it's not, but I think I suspect that it is.
01:03:45 He said that he only had like four people that he had fake faint, and there was eight people that fainted, and so they were like three extra people that he didn't even hire, that because it was psychosomatic, because they saw other people fainting, they started fainting, and so, yeah, and so that was that was kind of crazy, because he's like, "Yeah, I didn't know how these fucking people were, I didn't hire them, they were just fainting, because just like, you know, if you're in a third grade class and someone throws up, then some of the other kids start throwing up, because, you know, they see it, and that's, I mean, that's how impressionable people are, is some people pretend to faint, and like, say, you know, like, you know, I guess the boomer version of the woman that has fiber morale at work is like, oh my god, I'm feeling lightheaded, and she, you know, fucking kills over, and so, like, that's what was, I mean, that's what happened, according to him.
01:04:42 He said, like, about three extra people fainted that he didn't have nothing to do with, yeah. So that was the, that was the backstory for for the Donahue show thing.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:04:55 I liked this Omar School for Beggars One. This one did. Say, I reluctantly I laughed at this, but this is another way that he was able to comment on some social issue that he was invested in, and, like, looked like he was being an advocate for the underclass, but really he was just being subversive. So, he made this school for beggars, Omar's School for Beggars. This was, this was a longstanding one. I think this one lasted more than a decade. Yeah. No, went out for, like,Devon Stack
01:05:20 he was on so many shows for like over 10 years.Rebecca Hargraves
01:05:23 Oh my gosh, and he posed as Omar, who was teaching really high-level panhandling techniques during recession periods. He was on many, many talk show hosts, and he claims that it was a satirical commentary on the rise of unemployment and homelessness in America, but of course he was doing this for his own, his own reasons.Devon Stack
01:05:48 Here's a clip of that.Reporter
01:05:50 New York City is supposed to be down and out, but its beggars have never had it so good. At least those who go to Omar School for Beggars, W. Fives, Heinz Avador attended the classes, fifthRebecca Hargraves
01:06:02 again.Buck Henry
01:06:02 Okay, so how you gonna go out the street? You can't sit there in the gutter with your hand out, because you know you're just a beggar. Okay, so you gotta be like the people, you gotta melt right into the population, you gotta make them feel like they can trust you. See,Heinz Avador - Reporter
01:06:10 Omar's intensive training course takes a week and costs $100 For that, students are taught gimmicks to suit their personalities and locations that Omar hand picks for maximum cash flow,Buck Henry
01:06:21 you've just been bouncing your job, and you got to get something. You can't stand $100 a week, take home pay 74 $75 You can eat more than that. You need 234, $105, $100 a week to live. Okay, you're gonna get it, because this is what professional panhandling is all about.Alan Abel
01:06:33 There are a lot of people who are out of work who deserve jobs, who can't find a lot of PhDs. We've got a lot of space engineers from Cocoa Beach who came up to New York, can't find work, got a lot of over-trained college kids who got MAs and PhDs and BSS, and they go out and try to get work. Nobody wants them.Speaker 3
01:06:45 Aspiring beggars take five two hour classes from this hustler. He says he's launched 1000s of careers.Alan Abel
01:06:51 The 1972 Supreme Court says it's legal as long as you don't coerce anybody. And my people don't threaten, they don't use force, they use manners. They go out on the streets and they ask strangers for unsecured loans, because they have an immediate emergency, and that emergency I teach them.Reporter
01:07:06 So, how do we know who is truly homeless and who is a con man? Well, here to discuss that issue today is none other than George McDonald. He is an advocate of this city's poor, destitute, and our homeless. And also in the studio is Omar of Omar School for Beggars. Well, first let's get the ball rolling here. George, tell us what you think about Omar's School for Beggars.George McDonald
01:07:30 Well, there is no Omar School for Beggars, and there is no Omar. His name is Alan A. Bell. He's been a major hoaxer here of the media for 20 years,Devon Stack
01:07:41 hoaxer, haha,Rebecca Hargraves
01:07:43 he said hoaxer,Devon Stack
01:07:44 no, he didn'tRebecca Hargraves
01:07:46 hoaxer, beggars.George McDonald
01:07:48 Well, there is no Omar school for beggars, and there is no Omar. His name is Alan A. Bell. He's been a major hoaxer here, hoaxer, idiot for 20 years,Devon Stack
01:08:04 so they ended up getting this big fighting yelling match because he got, he finally got exposed, but I'm just like, here's the thing, by this time didn't people see like the guy with the with the secret Deep Throat tapes that, like, did a big press conference wearing the, the very unforgettable rape mask. Yeah, you know, it's like, how many times didn't heRebecca Hargraves
01:08:30 just wear a normal, like, a normal.. what are those called? You know, like a ski mask,Devon Stack
01:08:35 because this is.. because it's terrifying. That's why. I mean, look at that thing, it's so shootable, like I can't think of like anything that likes it's any more shootable than that with the weird rubber nose, which, by the way, is that a statement? Is he like trying to hint, look, everyone, I'm a Jew by putting like an extra nose on top of his nose.01:08:57 Yep, I
01:08:58 mean, holy shit, but no one, no one, yeah, no one figured it out somehow. I mean, I don't know how, but like, no one figured it out. There were so many.. there was, I mean, there's so much coverage of it. People just put it on the air, believing that it was real. I mean, there's clip after clip after clip after clip. I mean, we just saw like a montage, but there's like a lot more than that. And he does entire interviews with that rapid fire voice, and that was a trick he claimed that he learned that by watching politicians, where he could just rapid fire talk, and that way control the conversation, so that the person interviewing him wouldn't have the chance to call him on his bullshit, because he would just steamroll right over them, kind of like Ben Shapiro, I guess, in a way, right?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:09:50 Yeah, yeah, it's the.. it is a tactic,Devon Stack
01:09:56 so that the next thing, being politicians, do. During the Iran-Contra scandal, when that was big news, he got a - again, he claims it was just some Iranian guy that he met on the subway or something like that, but he gets this evenRebecca Hargraves
01:10:14 sure that this guy was Iranian,Devon Stack
01:10:16 yeah, I might not have been, but he says he got this Iranian guy or this Persian guy off the off the subway, and he holds, he makes this big press release that he sends off to all the major press outlets that are all itching for more and more information on this hot story, because everyone hates Reagan, and so this was like the big scandal, just like you know, the same thing with Nixon, right? When, when Nixon was in hot water, and, and they were trying to.. that's why they showed up to his fake tapes press conference, because, oh, this is, this is a way to get, get it, Nixon, and this was a way to.. I mean, look, fuck Reagan, I don't like. 01:10:59 I'm a Reagan fan, and, but you know, that was the context, right? There was a bunch of lefty reporters that, just like with Trump, that would have done anything that would have given their left, you know, not to, you know, have a bad story, and so in that context of Iran-Contra, all these major networks showed up when there was this irate this just random guy, like just some guy who's like, oh yes, I was involved with with the Iran Contra,
Alan Abel
01:11:30 and in the rush of events in the Iran scandal, a strange story in New York today, IReporter
01:11:34 received $6 million for my participation in this affair,Alan Abel
01:11:41 Mady Barramani, he says he's an Iranian who made $6 million on the sale of US arms to Iran, and he wants now to give it back.Paul Hiatt - Alan Abel's Accomplice
01:11:49 We had a fake Iranian guy, Alan, found this guy on a bus.Iranian Guy
01:11:53 I'm just a businessman, and I want to show my good faith in bringing back this money.Devon Stack
01:11:59 6 million, you sayRebecca Hargraves
01:12:01 a little on the nose there.Devon Stack
01:12:05 That's an odd number, but yeah, like NBC reported on the question,Rebecca Hargraves
01:12:11 this one. Yeah, yeah,Devon Stack
01:12:12 ABC reported on it. Everyone reported on it, like, oh my god, there's this rainy, and the guy's name is fake, like you said, he might not even be Iranian. He's just some guy that apparently found on a bus. I don't know how you do that. Like, hey, you want to be part of my Iran-Contra scandal hoax that I'm going to be doing in front of national media,Rebecca Hargraves
01:12:37 right? This one I don't really understand the motivation for, because it's believable. I mean, people win the lottery all the time, but he hired this actress to claim that she was a 30 year old cosmetologist who won a $35 million Powerball or lottery, and I don't know, I, they did a party, I think this was also, was it the Plaza Hotel? Wait, no, Omni Park Plaza Hotel in Midtown. They threw dollar bills out the window, which calls this commotion down below, and it had nationwide coverage, but, like, I don't know what's what's the MO behind behind this one.Devon Stack
01:13:17 I think what he was doing, he was just proving that he could, because in one of the interviews that I saw, he said that, well, you know, all these, all these news outlets, they always do these reports, and it's always like some plumber or some, like, you know, random Joe that wins lottery, and I figured, I bet I could just have, like, this, you know, create the perfect person that the media would love to have as someone who won the lottery, like a good-looking single woman who, you know, breaks her back working in a low-paying job, and now she, you know, it's the perfect story that the going were just ready to lap up, they just want to believe something like this so bad that they won't even check on it at all, and so that's that's why he did it, or at least that's why he said that he did it.Rebecca Hargraves
01:14:10 That's psychotic. So he was just proving that he could doDevon Stack
01:14:13 it. Yeah, he was just proving that this was a story that you want to believe, and so if I give it to you, you'll believe it. And that's literally what he said, and so Tom Brokaw even like covered this story.Tom Brokaw
01:14:25 Everyone loves a winner, of course. By now, lotteries are old news in this country, but big winners, well, they still attract a lot of attention. And when the news got out that a New York woman had won a fortune in the state lottery, reporters were all over the story, and what a story it was.Reporter
01:14:44 30 year old Charlie Taylor has probably given her last manicure and facial. The Dobbs Ferry cosmetologist is the lucky winner of last night's $35 million lottery.Charlie Taylor
01:14:55 I saw the ticket, and I can't believe it. Reporter
01:14:59 I'm still in shock. On tonight, the 30 year old cosmetologist is the single winner of the $35 million lottery jackpot. There is a woman from Dobbs Ferry, New York, who may be the luckiest person in the state tonight.Devon Stack
01:15:12 Yeah, so they just, and they did. I have the full version of the story here, but people just, I mean, there was news report, the news report reporting that she was the one that won the $35 million jackpot, and all they had to do, again, though this still costs money, it still costs money in here. I don't understand, like, who's investing all this money just so that, like, you can trick the media into buying a fake story like that costs you money, like to, to have, like, a you know, to rent out the venue, to pay for all the drinks, to pay for all the actors, to throw the money out the window, you know, like, like, what's going on here? Who's paying for thisReporter
01:16:03 30 year old Charlie Taylor has probably given her last manicure and facials.Charlie Taylor
01:16:12 I flipped, I freaked. It's great, it's great.Devon Stack
01:16:16 See, but here's the other thing too. It's creepy because you watch this and if I didn't know, I would believe this woman. I'd be like, ohRebecca Hargraves
01:16:23 yeah,Devon Stack
01:16:23 yeah, because her acting is not bad, and it makes you question, like, if just some random Jew can fake all these stories on all these different news outlets, what are other Jews with a lot more resources and more nefarious motives willing to do, I don't know, babies and incubators. WasReporter
01:16:44 there any particular method that you chose in picking those particular numbers?Charlie Taylor
01:16:49 No, I.. it's a funny thing, I had a dream.Reporter
01:16:53 You had a dream about the numbers.Charlie Taylor
01:16:54 Yeah, I had a dream. So that's what made me pick the numbers.Reporter
01:16:58 We caught up with Charlie tonight at a Manhattan hotel, in the midst of her celebration, ICharlie Taylor
01:17:03 was at home, and I heard it over, you know, I just saw the ticket, and I can't believe it. I'm still in shock.Reporter
01:17:14 Charlie will receive an initial payment of $1,666,000 before taxes, then 20 annual payments of the same amount, and guys, she's single. Howard Thompson, News Four, Manhattan. Oh, wait, takeRebecca Hargraves
01:17:30 the lump sum.Devon Stack
01:17:33 Yeah, so it's just.. it is like I said, it is a little weird. You wonder what the motivation for that was, because it wasn't free. There's, and with all these, it's kind of like, how are you, how is he benefiting? Because it's not like he's getting like, what, what would you get out of that, like they're not paying for the interviews, right? So, as farRebecca Hargraves
01:17:52 as I could tell, he wasn't profiting off of any of these in any meaningful way,Devon Stack
01:17:56 right? So it's just like you're losing money, so this has to be there, has to be something more to that.Rebecca Hargraves
01:18:03 The next one, I know why he did this. Yes, so he created a KKK symphony orchestra to lampoon David Duke, who was campaigning for governor of Louisiana. This is a 1991 and yeah, I think some radio stations covered this, and some local news outlets, right? In fact,Devon Stack
01:18:28 they even recorded a - they actually recorded a record. He basically sent out press releases saying that the KKK was trying to soften their image by making a symphony orchestra that David Duke was conducting, and that they were putting on a concert, and then he had again, how do you, how he had records made, he had records made and pressed and sent to radio stations asking them to play the KKK Symphony Orchestra, and it's like, Who you know, who's paying for that, and there was again, here's a political cartoon trying to make it sound as if this is real, that, and it was, of course, to politically hurt David Duke, who actually was doing surprisingly well in that campaign, so you know that's the motive. 01:19:24 The motives behind that are pretty, pretty obvious.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:19:29 Yeah, of course. What is this graphic I'm looking at? Yeah,Devon Stack
01:19:36 it's David Duke ringing like he's like, oh, David Duke is like acting like he's doing charity, or because of this, I don't know, like it's not. Why does he look soRebecca Hargraves
01:19:45 Jewish?Devon Stack
01:19:46 Maybe because that's, that's, that's who the guy really was that was doing that campaign. It was a fucking Jew. Yeah, I don't know. Oh,Rebecca Hargraves
01:19:56 go ahead. This one, this one was good, um. Um, there's a lot of news coverage on this one. This is fake kidney sales. I don't know, I.. I thought this was one of the more believable ones, but in the 90s there was this complete lack of organ donors. I remember it being all over the news, so he kind of seized on this moment and knew that it was going to be a media racket, and he had his friend, who also did a lot of public work with him in the previous hoaxes, so I don't know how they weren't getting caught at this point. I mean, we see Paul Hyatt like 15 years ago in one of the, in one of the previous ones, and he poses,Devon Stack
01:20:38 he wore a mask. Oh, okay,Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:39 okay,Devon Stack
01:20:40 yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:41 he poses as an unemployed college graduate willing to put his body parts up for sale in the New York Press classified section, and he said that he was so desperate to sell his kidney or lung for $25,000 to pay for school and to pay for his lifestyle, and when requests for interviews began to pour in. He appeared in disguise at Grand Central Station. That we think we have a clip here.Devon Stack
01:21:07 Yeah, in fact, this is where it became part of the lexicon. About, oh, what are you going to sell your kidney? You know, people used to just say stuff like that because it became such a big story. People thought it was real.Reporter
01:21:18 It is a decision most of us probably could not even imagine selling a lung or a kidney for money to live. A man so desperate, so in need of money, that he's putting his body parts up for sale.01:21:29 He says he's a college graduate who's been out of work over a year, is 15 grand in debt, and is about to be kicked out of his apartment.
Buck Henry
01:21:36 I was just going over, trying to figure out what do I have of value. I don't have a car, and out of all the things that I own, this is pretty much the most valuable thing I have. And youReporter
01:21:45 think your reasoning is that you own these organs, and therefore you should be allowed to sell them.Buck Henry
01:21:49 Well, I think so.Rebecca Hargraves
01:21:51 Why would you appear masked?Devon Stack
01:21:53 Well, because, as you said, he doesn't want to be noticed from being in parts of other parts of other hoaxes, and he also, no, no,Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:00 but, but why would he, as the college student, appear masked? That should have tipped some people. Well,Devon Stack
01:22:05 he was saying to the reporters, he claimed, "Well, I think some people are questioning the legality of what I'm doing, so I don't want to. And, in fact, they said that it actually helped, because it made it gave it more mystique, and so people would see, oh, who's this masked guy with the kidney? This is weird, and so, like, that it kept them, you know, drawn to the story.Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:29 He should have worn the rape mask.Devon Stack
01:22:31 Yeah, well, yeah, he could have. They wouldn't have noticed, because, you know, oh, it's the same rape mask that's been used in 50,000 hoaxes. It can't be. It's got to be true,Alan Abel
01:22:40 they need an audience, and the only way they're going to get an audience is to have perversions and calamities galore, because they want excitement, they want drama, and I give them that,Devon Stack
01:22:53 see, and that's his excuse, yeah, the goyim need, they need their, their scandals, and they need their, their titillating stories, and so he just, he just given you what you want, Goya, that's all he's doing. He's just, this is what you've been asking for, right? I'm just giving you what you want, and, and you'll hear this from, like, you know, well, from pornographers, from drug dealers, from all the people that degrade the society with their profession, they just say, 'Look, I'm just, you know, I wouldn't be rich if you know you weren't buying what I was selling, you know. So that's what they sayRebecca Hargraves
01:23:34 about usury, too.Devon Stack
01:23:35 Yeah, and that's the thing, too. And people will try to act big brain by saying, 'Well, they're right, right. It's kind of like, you know, Stefan Mall knew when he was cornered about the JQ, you know, he was, he was just like, well, you know, white people just need to try harder then, and it's like, okay, you know, like, come on, man. 01:23:56 And I look, I heard that there's a lot of people that were saying that at one point, I don't think he is now, but at one point Owen Benjamin was saying that, where, like, his response to, like, Jewish nepotism and Jewish power was just, well, you know, you just need to try harder and out compete them, and it's like, no, you understand, like, the rules are different, you know, they're cheating,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:24:16 yeah, that'sDevon Stack
01:24:17 that's the whole thing, if it was just about competing, that's not a problem, you know, like, but the problem we have isn't that they're out competing us, it's that they're they're breaking the rules, and you know, anyway, so IRebecca Hargraves
01:24:31 think we should do, we're gonna have to, well,Devon Stack
01:24:34 inevitably, that's that's the thing, is we will, the high trust society is crumbling, it's, you know, the high trust is on its way out, soRebecca Hargraves
01:24:46 white scammers, that's what we need.Devon Stack
01:24:48 Yes. Why? This wasRebecca Hargraves
01:24:50 big news in the 90s, too. Everybody was talking about Jack Kevorkian, because it was this, of course, everybody remembers, but he was administered, administering euthanasia. To legitimately terminally ill people, I don't know that he ever did it for anybody that had like mental health problems or anything like that, but maybe I'm, I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was just terminally ill people and very elderly people. 01:25:14 So, in a response to this, Abel created this um supposed euthanasia crude to offer the final voyage for the terminally ill, it had a one 800 number and office in Florida, which also would have cost a lot of money. He printed up stationary, he sent out press releases, and he said that the cruise was for ordinary people that who wanted to expire in luxury,
Devon Stack
01:25:44 yeah. And once again, you could say this is another way he's trying to break the taboo. Everyone's obviously uncomfortable with the idea of euthanasia, and especially, I mean, look, look, we'll look where we are now with Canton in Canada, especially. 01:26:01 And so this was his way of saying, you know, I'm gonna make it over the top ridiculous, and so that what Jack Kevorkian is doing actually doesn't sound so bad, because I'm gonna push it so far to like this, you know, beyond this limit, that that makes it seem like, you know, not a big deal what he's doing,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:26:21 yeah.01:26:24 All right. What's this Jenny
01:26:25 Jones clip?
Devon Stack
01:26:26 So this is what I was saying. It was he was having a field day with the Jerry Springer vacation of another Jew, by the way, Jerry Springer, ofRebecca Hargraves
01:26:38 course.Devon Stack
01:26:39 Yeah, well, and Jenny Jones, no, maybe not Jenny Jones, but like 80% I would say, of daytime talk show hosts were Jewish, you know, Sally Jessie, Ricky Lake, Ricky Lake, even, even what's his face that used to be on Current Affair, Maury, you know all these fucking people, but anyway, becauseRebecca Hargraves
01:27:05 Lori wasn't black,Devon Stack
01:27:06 no, Maury, Maury Povich.Rebecca Hargraves
01:27:09 Oh, you think of Mont,Devon Stack
01:27:10 you think Montel? Yeah, yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:27:14 Maurice the paternity test guy, right?Devon Stack
01:27:16 Yeah, yeah, but so is Montel. I mean, because that was it's trash TV. Let's get, let's get Niggs on TV, admitting that they don't know who the dad is, right? Everyone loves that. 01:27:27 So, the no, because of that, because there was like a new ecosystem where he could exist, because, again, as he said, well, the going were asking for it, so I was just going to give it to him, and these producers weren't going to thoroughly check the backgrounds of people, because quite frankly, they kind of didn't care, because if it got them ratings, then who cares if it's real, it's just, it's a spectacle, you know, it's about as real as, as wrestling, you know, and so if we can create this spectacle for people, and they're going to tune in and watch it, and people are going to syndicate our shows and pay our advertisers, then you know who cares.
01:28:10 So, this is a clip of him with an actress faking being an abusive husband on Jenny Jones,
Jenny Jones
01:28:21 before you tell us what happened, it is daytime television. Don't take us off the air, okay? Give us the daytime version of what happened. Angry Fat Woman
01:28:29 So, I waited till I was sure he was asleep. I grabbed my trusty little tube of grazie glue, kind of pulled back the sheets gently, and I glued his penis to his butt, right where I behaved.Alan Abel
01:28:49 In the angriest, in the angriest moments that I've had with this woman, I would never think of gluing her parts together.Angry Fat Woman
01:28:55 No, but you've smacked me around a couple of times, notAlan Abel
01:28:57 very much.Rebecca Hargraves
01:28:58 Well,Devon Stack
01:29:01 yeah, so that's the thing, is again it demonstrates how, like, all the gullible white people in the audience were just that they were, they were just gawking at some spectacle that was all bullshit, it was all just made up, you know, and in fact, there, he's not unique in this, Jerry Springer had a lot of fake guests. 01:29:24 There was a lot of these people that, that were, and even if they were real, were told before the taping, or if they were live before they went live. Hey, you know, if you actually, if you throw a chair at him or something like that, that's going to be good for ratings. And so, if you could do that, that'd be great, you know, and they would, they would try to get these people to act like animals, and just lower, again, lower the degrade the character of our society.
01:29:53 Yeah, exactly, that's what, that's what, and, and like I said, it was perfect, because that's exactly. It gave it was a, it was fertile ground for him to, for him to do that. So, you wanna talk about the next one? There,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:08 sure. Next, he did Citizens Against Breastfeeding. Now, I don't want to go into personal stories here, but I do know for a fact that Jews have, they have problems sexualizing breastfeeding. They think that it's, it's got like a sexual nature to it, so he created this fake organization, Citizens Against Breastfeeding, and he campaigned at the Republican National Convention to ban breastfeeding as this kind of incestuous relationship that arouses the mother and the child can't consent, and then he talks a lot about circumcision,Devon Stack
01:30:43 yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:44 yes, and how this relates to circumcision and the lack of consent, so he's trying to normalize that as like equally as natural and as necessary as breastfeeding within the discourse, because there were circumcision, anti-circumcision advocates that were rising around this time,Devon Stack
01:31:06 right. So that was, that was basically his, his underlying message was that, well, you know, if you're trying to be against circumcision, then you're basically one of these nut cases that is against breastfeeding.Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:22 Yeah,Devon Stack
01:31:22 so here he is on television.Reporter
01:31:26 Should women be allowed to breastfeed in public? One of our guests tonight says absolutely not. Jim Rogers is the East Coast spokesman for Citizens Against Breastfeeding, and Leslie Burby is the vice president of Pro Mom. So, Jim, let's start with you. What's wrong with breastfeeding in the open? Is it too sexy?Alan Abel
01:31:45 Our position is after 22,000 respondents have been interviewed using primarily the Minnesota Molophasic Personality Profile. Mothers are getting erotic experiences by breast feeding. 01:31:56 Also, we found in a number of cases, this is only a two year study, so it's just a warning flag, many youngsters grow up to become, shall we say, antisocial because of the long breastfeeding period when they are addicted to the mother's breast, and they have this oral gratification need that manifests itself into smoking, drinking, and in one instance, Monica Lewinsky, who was breastfed until she was four years old,
Leslie Burby
01:32:20 I think they call those erotic experiences bonding. Leslie, do you have any reaction to what Jim is saying? Well, with due respect, had I known that Jim was going to be on the show, I don't know that I would have agreed to appear.Rebecca Hargraves
01:32:34 She's onto it.Devon Stack
01:32:36 Yeah, so he pushed this, not just on television, they had a website, obviously set up. They had a hotline set up that you would call in, because he loved getting the hate calls. Here he is on the radio,Reporter
01:32:53 Director of what National Association to get rid of breastfeeding. Jim, how we doing? We're doing really good. So, why? How did you get so passionate about this, and where did all this come from for you?Alan Abel
01:33:06 I've been out in the field, I've interviewed hundreds, maybe 1000s of breastfeeding mothers who, after two hours of interrogation, have admitted that they've had erotic feelings with their baby, which is incestuous. It's a violation of the baby's civil rights, just as we feel circumcision probably is too, and it's been going on, it's rampant.Devon Stack
01:33:25 So, there, there, he brings up the circumcisionAlan Abel
01:33:28 rights, just as we feel circumcision probably is too, and it's been going on, it's rampant. Nobody is raising the flag except us. We're saying, "Hey, stop it, don't use the breath, because it's a naughty nipple.Reporter
01:33:40 Hey, Jim, could we have a couple of our listeners jump in on the phones? Sure.Alan Abel
01:33:44 Why not?Reporter
01:33:44 Heather is on the phone. Heather, talk to you, Jim. You're on with Jim Rogers from Citizens Against Women Breastfeeding.Heather - Scientist
01:33:49 Jim, I am a scientist. Yes, and to use some very unscientific words, this is a load of crap. God gave us milk in our breasts for a reason,Alan Abel
01:34:01 Heather, why don't you have an aspirin and lie down for a while, put a cold rag on your forehead, you'll feel better.Devon Stack
01:34:12 So, there you go, and he would go out in public with signs and loud, you know, megaphones, and you know, try to get into arguments with people. He was on several TV shows, and obviously lots of newspaper articles were written about it, and whatnot.Rebecca Hargraves
01:34:35 He was probably getting money from formula companies.Devon Stack
01:34:39 Yeah, probably, but yeah, like, so he was hoaxing all the way into the 2000s One thing I noticed was in 2006 they cop, they redid the lottery hoaxRebecca Hargraves
01:34:53 board,Devon Stack
01:34:53 yeah. So in 2006 they went into like an Olive Garden or something like that, I forget what the. Restaurant was, and they, they had like two, they gave $2,000 to the the host and said we're paying for everyone's dinner because we just won the lottery, and then they called up the the media and said, Oh, the lottery winner is over here buying, buying everyone's dinner, you should come cover this, and a bunch of news media showed up while they were there eating their dinner again, but they paid two. 01:35:29 Why are they? Who's who's funding the $2,000 just to have like some news coverage of someone not who didn't win the lottery, win the lottery? You know, I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:42 Yeah, yep. Something that really struck me about him is that he didn't care about having any personal credibility, like if nobody can ever trust your word about anything, what is your life going to be like? And the truth just didn't matter to him. I mean, he played it off like this was fun, this was an adventure, and that's how his daughter also played it off, but that's not really what he was doing. 01:36:06 I mean, he had made an enemy of the truth, that was his entire career, in order to subvert white society and to show that the goy are supposedly gullible, but he always made things believable enough that the people that believe them, they didn't seem like victims to me, like, and then he had that plausible deniability as well,
Devon Stack
01:36:27 right? No, he was always, he was always tricking people for the sake, well, at least according to him, you know, for the sake of tricking them, but it's like you obviously get off on this in a way that's either, I mean, if let's say that he's not getting any money for this, and he's spending $2,000 just for newspapers to say that someone who didn't win the lot didn't win the lottery won the lottery. I mean,01:36:54 yeah,
01:36:55 that's like a, an addiction to lying, you know, that's an addiction to duper's delight. I mean, that's the only way you can really describe it is a weird Jewish addiction to tricking people, and that's the only way.
01:37:09 That was the outlet, I mean, and there was another example, I think, in like 2000 like 10, or maybe 2009 HBO was doing a documentary on, like, I don't know, it was some degenerate, like, or do a documentary about penises, or like, literally it was something like that, and they had some in, like, the, like, the back pages of Variety, or something like that, they were asking for people that, that want to talk about their genitalia for this documentary, and so he had a, he made a fake ID, like literally went through the process of making like a fake identity, contacted them, filled out all their forms, their release forms, and even got paid at like a not a per diem but like some kind of like appearance fee, then the check they made out was to this fake name with this fake ID, then he cashed the check, and basically said, "Oh, yeah, my penis is only two inches long, and it's really weird that I've got this mic, and they put him in the documentary as one of the subjects of the penis documentary, and it aired nationally, and then, of course, at this point someone's like, "Oh, it's the weird rape mask guy, like, how did you not know that? That's that's the guy who keeps lying all the time. And, but at that point, you know, it was sorry, it was too late.
01:38:31 It had already aired, and he, when they interviewed him, he said, "Well, the reason they believed me is they thought that no one would lie, no man would say that about like I was just proving that because they didn't think someone would lie about having a small penis, they wouldn't check into it, and so that's why I did
Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:54 it, really, that's that's true. Why would the shame, the shame, this guy was shameless, truly.Devon Stack
01:39:03 Yeah, he just wanted to, again, he was.. he didn't care. He wanted to just lie, like that's that's really what it was. He just wanted to lie, is he had that genetic need to just lie to white people, you know? Like that was.. he had this genetic drive, you know, this this burning desire, and almost imperative that I must trick a goy today. You know, I'm starting to feel the shakes. I haven't tricked a guy in like three days. I gotta trick one. SoRebecca Hargraves
01:39:39 come here. Sorry, my puppy is fucking around if there's noise,Devon Stack
01:39:42 so that's, I mean, again, he stayed active for a while. I don't think he's dead yet. I think he's like old as fuck, though.Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:50 Seriously,Devon Stack
01:39:51 yeah, he's like 90 or something now. Let me look up, see if he, if he died, because he, when I went to his web. Site, no, no, he finally died in 2018 Looks like his website wasRebecca Hargraves
01:40:04 about time,Devon Stack
01:40:05 yeah. His website is still up, and they're selling like his daughter's documentary, and like all this other stuff, like he started doing like self-help talks, and, and you know, I don't know how he could be. He was literally like a motivational speaker, like in the 2000 10s, so right before he died, I guess he was god, yeah, he was motivational,Rebecca Hargraves
01:40:29 motivate people to what he was teaching people how to, yes, he was teaching people how to like expand their, their wealth base through trickery, I think that he had a book that was called something like that,Devon Stack
01:40:41 yeah. No, it was.. let me see.. he had a few books, I think. Oh, wait, loaded up something weird. Hold on. Later years, books. he had a book in 1966 called The Great American See. There's things he's like writing books about how he's tricking people, and they're, he's still able to trick them. So, 1966 he wrote a book called The Great American Hoax. He wrote another book about the Yetta Bronstein thing in 1966 called the president, I almost was. He wrote another book in 1970 called Confessions of a Hoaxer. 01:41:27 Hoaxer, by the way, that's in the title, hoaxer, not hoaxer, The Fallacy of Creative Thinking, which he did under a fake name in 1972 He literally did write the Pain Handlers Handbook, and sold that as Omar the Beggar, 1977 Don't get mad, get even. He wrote under another fake name in 1983 and then How to Thrive on Rejection in 1983 as another fake name, but there was another one that's not this is Wikipedia, that I know there's another one, because they, they fucking shield it in the, in his daughter's documentary, and it was related to his motivational speaking. I don't know why they don't have it. Yeah,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:42:17 yeah, that's all I'm talking about. Yeah,Devon Stack
01:42:20 yeah, so anyway, that's that's the story of the tricky Jew, and thoseRebecca Hargraves
01:42:29 we cover this because not all Jew trickery is so criminal. I'm not really sure if you broke any laws when he was watching outlaw.Devon Stack
01:42:39 That's why, that's why I take the fucking the way I have it set up. That's why I turn off the fucking intro, guys, because then I forget to turn it off when I switch back, and then it starts playing again. See, this is why we just need, like, a producer. We need someone that's like flipping switches and hitting buttons, and so I don't, I don't have to do all that. I can just be like,Rebecca Hargraves
01:42:59 it's notDevon Stack
01:43:00 worth it. Don't bring somebody else. I'm not gonna do it. I'm just saying someday AI will be able to do it like an AI robot doing all this shit for us.Rebecca Hargraves
01:43:12 Well, I hope my dog wasn't too loud. Sorry, guys. She's.. she hasn't been alone before, ever. And so I just can't.. I just can't bring myself to leave room. Yeah, I'veDevon Stack
01:43:22 been ignoring churro, meowing for like 20 minutes, and you're sitting there like cuddling your dog,Rebecca Hargraves
01:43:29 like she's new, she's brand new, she's been with our litter mates. Her name is Poppy, she's a Whippet. I love her so much. She's.. oh no, she's already outraged.Devon Stack
01:43:38 Now, the sudden kindness isn't gay,Rebecca Hargraves
01:43:41 huh? I don't know what to tell you. Listen, I've had a series of piece of shit dogs, and so I was like, after Muskett dies, my next dog is going to be the perfect dog. And so my friend, my beautiful, amazing Russian friend, is a hobby breeder of Whippets, and I like carefully picked out this puppy I've been waiting for two years. The fucks are whippetDevon Stack
01:44:03 isn't that like when you get like the the can of whipped cream and like inhale the nitric nitrous oxide out of the whip. ItRebecca Hargraves
01:44:10 is an ancient English breed between Italian Greyhounds and Greyhounds. They're the pretty sure size,Devon Stack
01:44:17 pretty sure Whip It's like galaxy gas.Rebecca Hargraves
01:44:20 It's also nitrous oxide, that is, that is true. She's amazing. I love the breed. I don't think I'm ever gonna have another type of dog.Devon Stack
01:44:30 Yeah, you say that now. Wait till she starts chewing up the furniture.Rebecca Hargraves
01:44:36 No, she would never startDevon Stack
01:44:38 shitting all over your carpet.Rebecca Hargraves
01:44:40 No, never. She's already potty trained. I'm telling you, I've had her for like three days. She's potty trained.Devon Stack
01:44:44 Attack some Jew in your front yard and gets you sued. Okay,Rebecca Hargraves
01:44:47 well, I give her a big juicy steak for that one. There are no Jews up here anyway.Devon Stack
01:44:54 Ah, there will be. There willRebecca Hargraves
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Devon Stack
01:46:11 That's right. Do you not like01:46:13 dogs?
01:46:15 You know, it's not that I don't like dogs. I don't like. I wouldn't like having a dog because I just feel like they're just kind of like a pain in the ass, you know, like they, I mean, dogs like me, and I like dogs when they're not my dogs, you know, and it's just that I like, they're just so high maintenance, you know, like that is true,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:40 my cat barely exists,Devon Stack
01:46:41 right?Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:42 She just barely,Devon Stack
01:46:43 like, I got my own shit going on. I don't need, like, some little furry kid that's, you know, that's never going to grow up chewing up the furniture and shitting on the carpet, you know. I don'tRebecca Hargraves
01:46:55 know, Whippets are famously lazy, just incredibly lazy. They have, like, the lowest indoor vigor of almost any dog, they run around outside for an hour, and then they sleep for like 23 hours. That's incredible.Devon Stack
01:47:09 Yeah, but I mean, I don't know, I just like.. I don't know, I just.. I'm not a dog person. I mean, I, again, I don't dislike dogs, and when am I.. I go to my friends' houses who have dogs, like I play with the dog and stuff, you know. My neighbors have dogs, and you know that's fine. I, I understand the practical uses of dogs, like protecting your property, and I've thought about it from that context, but then it's like, but now if I ever go anywhere, right, I have to worry about the dog, you know, like I can't just leave the dog to, like, fend for, like, a cat. You can just, like, leave a cat for a few days and nothing bad's gonna happen, you know.Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:51 Chero survived three months in theDevon Stack
01:47:54 desert, more like five months.Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:56 Geez, was it really five months? Yeah,Devon Stack
01:47:58 it was close to five months, because I didn't tell anyone, like he was gone for months before I even said anything, because I thought he was like he's gonna come back, and then when I finally went on stream, was like I think he's dead, guys, it was like three months after that that he showed up, so yeah, he was gone for a long time, I don't know where he went, but but that's thing, like no dog is gonna do that, dog would be dead within like a week out here, you know.Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:23 I don't know, but they're so cut. Don't you want the cuddles and the snuggle?Devon Stack
01:48:27 I get, you know, I get cat cuddles and snuggles if I want them. It'sRebecca Hargraves
01:48:31 not the same. My cat will just wake me up sometimes by scratching me, yeah, like scratching my furniture. I'm like, oh my god, get out of the house.Devon Stack
01:48:41 Yeah, I mean, I've had cats like that, you know. Churro doesn't do that. Churros, pretty chill, and you know, goes and does his own thing. SoRebecca Hargraves
01:48:52 look how cute she is. Look, look, how cute she isn't. She cute. Look at her snoot, look at her pointy face. She's like a snake. Oh,Devon Stack
01:49:00 she's like, like a greyhound mixed with a, I don't know, something like it. This does nothingRebecca Hargraves
01:49:12 for you,Devon Stack
01:49:13 that's, you know, it's like a dog,Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:16 expected ooze and odds, you know.Devon Stack
01:49:21 I don't know. There's probably people in the audience that like it, butRebecca Hargraves
01:49:27 I should have known. Let's do some super chats. You want me to start?Devon Stack
01:49:31 Yeah, go for it.Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:32 Okay, cool. All right. A big dono. Thank you for saving me, Romega, for my shame. Devon, have you heard of the Briley Brothers or Timothy Spencer? Interesting cases that are never talked about.Devon Stack
01:49:47 They don't sound familiar, right? At the topRebecca Hargraves
01:49:51 here, I'll pop these in the Outlaw and the Outlaws outline. There's a tongue twister.Devon Stack
01:49:57 All right,Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:58 that was a big donor. You're gonna have to give him more than. That01:50:03 nothing,
Devon Stack
01:50:04 what do you want? Where am I looking?Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:07 I don't know. Briley Brothers or Timothy Spencer, just fill the, fill the air while I put this in the, in the outline, so I don't forget.Devon Stack
01:50:18 Briley Brothers, the Briley Brothers are were a sibling trio of serial spree killers and rapists and robbers who are responsible for a murder, rape, and robbery spree that took place, which they're black, by the way, in Richmond, Virginia, 1979 Linwood murdered a woman in 1971 and served a year in reform, or really just one year, that's it. Dormitory, yeah. 01:50:45 After raping and murder, murdering a woman in 1971 In 19, meanwhile, while that's going on, some Jews on TV saying, like, you know, that he's got the secret Nixon tapes. In 1979 the three siblings, with the help from an accomplice, went on a killing spree in their home city of Richmond, killing at least 12 people. Two would-be victims escaped unharmed. Linwood and JB were sentenced to death in 1984 The two elder brothers escaped death row with four other inmates, but were recaptured within three weeks. Okay, Linwood and JB, they were out for three
Rebecca Hargraves
01:51:21 weeks,Devon Stack
01:51:22 yeah, and then they got executed by electric chair because we used to still do that in the 1980s and yeah, and then there's the other two are still incarcerated, yeah, right, well, I, that sounds very interesting,Rebecca Hargraves
01:51:38 yeah, that does, thank you, Omega, we appreciate it, we'll look into the other one soon. Troy says it's a similar to Bo Rat humor. Yes, Sasha Barra Cohen, and also, also Jew. Yeah,Devon Stack
01:51:47 right, right, same thing, same exact thing, except for he was making money doing it when he would act like Ali G or Borat or the gay one, Bruno, yeah, like he would make money off of the, you know, shooting those interviews and selling them to HBO or whoever, so that's that makes sense because there's a financial interest, plus like he's what he's super connected, anyone with the last name of Cohen, by the way, guys, having the last name of Cohen in, like, the Jew world, that's like having the last name of, like, you know, Bush or something like that, in like the Wasp world, like that's like royalty Jew last name, and so the fact that he has, you know, that's how he gets all these interviews with, well, like Trump and all these celebrities and politicians that he got interviews with when he was acting like those characters, but yeah, he was super connected and made some money off of it. 01:52:55 This guy, I feel like there's also got to be some kind of connections for that to be happening,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:53:00 has to, has to,Devon Stack
01:53:02 but also he's not getting super wealthy, or didn't get super wealthy, but heRebecca Hargraves
01:53:06 wasn't independently wealthy. There's just no way he could have done this without some kind of funding.Devon Stack
01:53:10 Well, that's thing too, is they're always complaining. He's always complaining about how he never had a real job, like he didn't. He didn't work. That's the other weird thing, is motherfucker doesn't, hasn't worked since he was like a drummer in the 50s, and yet he's still like he lives in like some house with a family, and you know is doing these hoaxes that cost 1000s of dollars every so often, so it's kind of like, well, how is this working? Like, how exactly does this happen?Rebecca Hargraves
01:53:36 Yeah, I mean, the idiot, mean one, must have cost 50 grand, right, someone's paying shit. Jay Fox, thank you so much. And Lucian La Chance says, Rebecca, do you still have the Chihuahua? Also, cats are better than dogs. Um, I do not. I had a.. I was sublimating my maternal instincts, and I had a Chihuahua for a long time, that dog was a fucker. So, when I had my baby, he was like trying to buy my baby, and I was like, "nope. And I posted him on, I don't know, some website. 01:54:11 He was old, he was like 12 when I did this, and there was this old lady in town, and she just like loved taking in elderly dogs with behavioral problems, like small ones. She was so excited, she had, like, knit him a cap when she picked him up, and then he died six months later. What
Devon Stack
01:54:30 has gone wrong in your life if you end up as the old woman who likes taking in all elderly dogs with behavioral problems?Rebecca Hargraves
01:54:38 Hey, it really helped me out.Devon Stack
01:54:39 If that I know, but if that description sums up your existence, what has gone so terribly wrong? Like, at what point was there like a way for her to not end up as the old woman who takes in elderly dogs with behavioral problems? Like, at what point, because there was a point in her life where it was too late, like that was just going to happen. Yeah, right, like that was just she's doing aRebecca Hargraves
01:55:02 public service. Putting a dog down is hard. It's difficultAlan Abel
01:55:07 toRebecca Hargraves
01:55:07 get down two weeks ago, it was, you know, right,Devon Stack
01:55:11 but, but again, what do you do for loving? Oh, I take an elderly dogs that have behavior. Oh, she hadRebecca Hargraves
01:55:22 like a like a 17 year old Maltese with one eye, andDevon Stack
01:55:26 see that's what I'm saying.Rebecca Hargraves
01:55:28 Hospice over there,Devon Stack
01:55:29 that's what I'm saying. Who is that? That's.. I don't know.Rebecca Hargraves
01:55:33 I think she's a good soul, and she helped me in a time of need, and protected my children from getting bit, and I didn't have to put my dog down or deal with his death. It was like incredibly helpful to me, and I appreciate her. And I'm not gonna say she's got a, she's got a big heart, that lady. I'm never making a breed mistake ever again. I know more Chihuahuas, never again. My Great Pyrenees is also a piece of shit, like no more Whip Its Only from here on out.Devon Stack
01:56:02 Genetics matter for sure,Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:04 they do. They really do. Yeah, I think we're good over here.Devon Stack
01:56:09 Okay. Then we got over here. Love and Division says how easy it is for Jews to manipulate opinion. Growing up in the 70s and 80s, I knew many who would do anything to prove they were not prude, even a straight guy who put up Maple Thorpe photos in his shop. What are.. what are Maple Thorpe photos?Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:35 I don't know.Devon Stack
01:56:36 I'm afraid to look that up. I feel like something horrible is going to come up if I search for that, but let me look anyway. It's just like naked black people. What the fuck?Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:49 WhatDevon Stack
01:56:49 I don't know. Look up if you look up Maple Fort photos, that's like these artsy naked black people photos,Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:57 like chicks,Devon Stack
01:56:58 no, like dudes, or at least the ones that pop up, you know, immediately, anyway. Well, that's horrifying. Thank you very much. 01:57:10 Love and division, but yeah, it was easier back then to just make shit up. And how would anyone know? Or we got likes to watch, says Love Outlaws, love the reset, love insomnia stream. Sorry for neglecting your other podcast, blonde. Hope you both are doing great. Cheers. That's right. Yeah, I should chill for that
Rebecca Hargraves
01:57:32 podcast some more. I do a totally different, very serious podcast with Cameron MacGregor on Thursdays, called The Reset. It's at 4pm Pacific Standard Time, every Thursday, so check it out. It's very serious. No jokes are to be had.Devon Stack
01:57:46 If you like boring stuff, then you just head on.Rebecca Hargraves
01:57:50 It's, it's a really, it's a hard-hitting new show. I will say, allDevon Stack
01:57:54 right. Then we got a TMK 1335 Says Devon, have you given any more thought to a live-action or AI version of Day of the Rope? The world needs it after the mostly disappointing release of Citizen Vigilante. I'm sure the chat would be happy to find the project if it, if you needed to step away and get it done. 01:58:19 I don't know, I think you're vastly underestimating the cost of doing something like that. It would, it would take a lot of money to do like a full on movie that doesn't suck, like it would be easy for me to make, like actually not as easy.
01:58:36 They clamp down on what you can do with Grok, like when I made the Whitmans, for example, Grok let you just crank out videos all day long, it seemed like, and now I get like the, the like, you know, my plan, I still pay for like the Super Grok, and now it like it cock blocks me after just like a few videos, so I think they dialed it back, and I'm not paying for Super Grok, and even if I was, that's not good enough to do an actual movie movie, and it's just not there yet, like it's it's to get consistent looks and voices for the length of a movie, the technology at least available to me is not good enough yet to do that, and
Rebecca Hargraves
01:59:25 Devon is a perfectionist too. So,Devon Stack
01:59:28 yeah, I wouldn't - he just wouldn't talkRebecca Hargraves
01:59:29 to me for six months, he would just, you know, then he'd emerge, his hair would be all long and stuff. Finish my feature-length film.Devon Stack
01:59:37 Oh, yeah, if it was possible, I'd be working on it right now, you know? I would just do it, but yeah, I'd love to, and hopefully look, I had no idea the technology would get as good as it already got in as quickly as it did, so it's entirely possible that, like, in two years, even it's like, oh, it's it's ready to go, and then I'll do it, but yeah. Then we got a, oh, thank you very much, Team K 1335 Then we have a very generous dono from Red Neckerson, Red Neckerson, who simply says, appreciate y'all.Rebecca Hargraves
02:00:13 Oh, thank you so much, we appreciate you too.Devon Stack
02:00:16 Absolutely, especiallyRebecca Hargraves
02:00:17 in these summer months, they've been rough.Devon Stack
02:00:20 Absolutely, yeah. Thank you very much. All right, there we go.Rebecca Hargraves
02:00:24 My case to like do an itemized list of how much money we're making, and I'm like, no, you don't understand, I can't do that right now.Devon Stack
02:00:33 The last insomnia stream was rough. Oh, it was rough. EverybodyRebecca Hargraves
02:00:40 stop it with your ventures. TheDevon Stack
02:00:42 frustrating thing is, I had like over 1000 lives when I did it. I was like, it's gonna be great. And then I get to it, I'm like, oh, apparently 1000 I had like some of the most views that I had on that stream. Actually, it's one of my most viewed streams in the last month or so, and one of the least money making ones. Oh, I know.Rebecca Hargraves
02:01:02 People, I get comments all the time like, 'You grifting bitch. I'm like, 'Listen, worst grift ever. Like, how much money do you people think? Yeah, well, and it's like,Devon Stack
02:01:13 obviously, like you're watching the show, so you're enjoying it. Yeah, the show is fucking free, you know? Like, so go make your own fucking show if you don't like it, all right. Then we gotRebecca Hargraves
02:01:25 there's no money in this sphere, unless you're like Nick Fuentes, that there just isn't.Devon Stack
02:01:29 Yeah, there really isn't, unless you have Jews sending you 1000s of dollars, all right. So we got USS Liberty, says Devon, my fiance fosters stray kittens as her hobby today. She brought home five, and one has some sort of brain damage, I think. Sadly, still a loving cat, lovingly named Corky. Now,Rebecca Hargraves
02:01:55 oh, that's so sweet.Devon Stack
02:01:57 Well, hopefully you know, you know, like, it's at least able to, you know, get around and stuff like that. I had a cat that had some kind of brain damage, and it was real floppy, and had some issues, and it kind of died young, because it, you know, just had it kept having like seizures and stuff, and and it sucked, but you know, what are you gonna do, but hopefully you know, hopefully it's healthy enough to, if it, yeah, if you have some dopey cat, that's fine, but hopefully it's healthy enough to, like, you know, get around and stuff like that, but good luck with that. Thank you, Roach, USS Liberty. Then we got Denise the Celt, says this is for the four of you, Devon Chero, Rebecca, and Rebecca's glorious hair. Happy Fourth. Thank you. SheRebecca Hargraves
02:02:49 sent another one because that wasn't that first one was an accident.Devon Stack
02:02:52 Okay. And then she says that was supposed to be $21 Okay, I was gonna say, well, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna split that $1 are we all four of us like a quarter a piece? Thanks.Rebecca Hargraves
02:03:08 At this point in the summer, I'll take it.Devon Stack
02:03:10 Yeah, it's better nothing, I guess. Well, thank you very much, Denise, the Celt. And then Pork Chop Express says happy White History Month. Did you listen to the Dan Bilzerian and Owen Benjamin on the Jake Shields this week? Informative, but they also talked smack about the gay Mexican. What do you think about Jake Shields, mr. Stack? And, oh, wait, I thought this was all kept going because the same one. I mean, he's always been cool to me.Rebecca Hargraves
02:03:40 I like James Shields when I met him, because he came up for the backlash. She came up to Idaho, he was like the nicest, well, most well-mannered person. He, he loves animals, because, and he's a vegetarian, and I just really.. I was impressed with him in person.Devon Stack
02:03:57 Yeah, he seems like a nice guy. In fact, I could, I could, or might, I might be on a show at some point. He's, he's invited me on. I just, you know, we haven't been able to work out the time and stuff because of everything else going on. But theRebecca Hargraves
02:04:12 show, Devon.Devon Stack
02:04:13 Oh yeah, I'll definitely do that. But it's just a matter of arranging it. But yeah, we've, we've talked a couple times, and he's always been cool. And then you said, mr. Stack, in the 90s, I pierced my ears to have four small hoop rings like Bono, but even I wasn't gay enough to do the tongue pierced. 02:04:34 So there we go. See, I'll tell you what, though, multiple bono, you're trying to look like bono, and you weren't gay enough for what you weren't gay enough for what anyone trying to look like too
Rebecca Hargraves
02:04:50 graphic, because my mom listens to this, but the, the male tongue ring is not, it's never had the the reputation to. Is being gay, that'sDevon Stack
02:05:03 honestly it's because Chris Rock made one joke once, like that's literally what happened. Is it Chris Rock made a joke in the early 2000s and everyone thought it was funny because at the time tongue rings weren't cool anymore, and yeah, and so forever, forever tainted everything, that's it, was never considered gay, like when it was going on, it was gay, now bottle was always considered gay, though, so there you go, there you go, pork chop, all right, and we got aster lists 725 says this renews my disdain for Jews like him. Your show magnifies this. Have some shekels for your efforts and research. Cheers.Rebecca Hargraves
02:05:48 Thank you so much. We appreciate it.Devon Stack
02:05:51 Appreciate that. Then we got Anonymous says over the weekend, Fuentes went on fresh and fit, and one of the girls asked him what his number one goal was he answered to about a dozen, not to a dozen nons, including the host, Myron, to make America a white country. Well, he doesn't believe thatRebecca Hargraves
02:06:15 he's got some PR that he needs to fix, that's why he's saying this.Devon Stack
02:06:19 Yeah, I mean, he doesn't believeRebecca Hargraves
02:06:20 that, because he has, he doesn't think that his movement should be a white movement,Devon Stack
02:06:24 right, and he says, like, like he says the exact opposite on a regular basis, and look, I'll tell you what, anything Nick says one week will be totally different the next week, so wait a week and he'll say the exact opposite, so I can, I can tell why I know if you're simping for Nick. I know why you came in as anonymous, because I'd be ashamed to. All right, then we got Rabbi Baby Foreskin Eater, by the way. Nick's not even white. If we made it a white country, Nick would have to get deported.Rebecca Hargraves
02:06:58 Yeah,Devon Stack
02:06:58 so there's always that, Rabbi. It's funny, you're like, "Oh yeah, Nick said this to a bunch of nons, you mean a non said this to a bunch of nons?Rebecca Hargraves
02:07:07 Yeah,Devon Stack
02:07:08 so a room full of nons, like with no white people, basically. Ah, you people, this is, this is, this is.. it's so depressing, it's depressing, it's alsoRebecca Hargraves
02:07:21 depressing that I still get some pushback, although it's not nearly as much as I used to, because I think he's kind of tanked his credibility,Devon Stack
02:07:29 yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
02:07:29 for pushing back against Fuentes. I mean, are we ready for something more mature as a movement? Aren't we? I know he has excellent rhetorical skills, he possesses a lot of talent. I'm not, I'm not saying that he doesn't, but like this, this can't be it, guys. Yeah, he can't be it. That's not where the white movement is gonna, is gonna begin. No,Devon Stack
02:07:50 he's again, he's not white, he's notRebecca Hargraves
02:07:53 white,Devon Stack
02:07:54 he's not white, so sorry, like he's not white, and he's a homosexual, and he'sRebecca Hargraves
02:08:01 just a quarter Mexican. He's any half Mexican. ItDevon Stack
02:08:03 doesn't matter if he's just a quarter Mexican. Guys, would you drink a glass of water that was a quarter shit? I mean, come on, like it's just a quarter Jew. It's just.. I mean, give me a fucking break. You, you fuck whoever said that, ban him from chat. Fuck you and kill yourself. 02:08:20 Like, seriously, he's just a quarter Mexican, that's how it starts, bitches, that's how it starts. Well, we're just gonna let in a few Mexicans to like mow the law, and they're not gonna take the real jobs. It's faggots like you that make us not a white country. It's faggots like you that create the white replacement that's going on now. He's just a corner Mexican, have some fucking standards, have some fucking self-respect, you piece of shit, fuck you. And I'm
Rebecca Hargraves
02:08:47 concerned about the Fuentes thing, because it's not like Prager, where people eventually will move beyond it. They typically don't get stuck there. People, people will stop at Rism, they'll arrive there and be like, well, this is it. Well, and there's no, there's no fuckingDevon Stack
02:09:03 value system. Like I said, ask there, he changes his position on everything every week. Like, it literally is like it. I know it's a meme of flip-flop fontes, or whatever, but it's true. I've known this guy for too long. I've seen him basically talk shit about everything that he claims to promote. 02:09:23 Now I've seen him call everyone that was pro white wig nets for fucking years. I saw him support Trump, and then he was anti Trump, and it's like some of that, okay? Some of that was he was growing up because he was literally a kid when he started doing this stuff, and I believe some stupid, and but that excuse is over now.
02:09:43 Motherfucker is almost 30, he looks like he's 50, and it, that shit's over now. Okay, that shits over, and he's not white, he's not white, and I'm not saying that, like, is it some kind of like one drop rule or whatever. Guess what, you have to know a little. About genetics.
02:10:01 Okay, first of all, Mestizos are so clustered, so far away genetically from white people. If you ever take a look at the, the, those.. what's this? I forgot what those cluster maps are called for the genetic test, but they are so far away from white people, it's not like he's like a quarter Spanish or he's like a quarter Italian or something like that. You're talking about a population, Aztecs, who literally did human sacrifices through fucking heads down, like you've seen Apocalypto, right? That it's that kind of fucking shit, and those people were genetically cut off from Europeans for like 50,000 fucking years, they're almost as far away from us as niggers.
02:10:45 Okay, and so I'm just telling you, he has nothing in fucking common with any of the founding fathers or founding stock Americans, because the, the white that he is, is his fucking Italian, he's fucking part Mexican, he's part of part fucking Italian, he's 0% Anglo, he's 0% founding stock. He has nothing genetically in common with me at all, at all. Could
Rebecca Hargraves
02:11:09 that not inform your political decisions? It just does. ItDevon Stack
02:11:12 absolutely does. So, yeah, he is. He's not one of us. He's not one of us, and it's likeRebecca Hargraves
02:11:21 saying we should have a white country. He's saying, like, with admixtures of my type, which is not white. So, yeah,Devon Stack
02:11:28 it's well, it's look, you can't fucking believe someone like that. It's like when Myron says that shit, Myron says, "Well, you act like that's a big deal. Oh, he said that right in front of Myron. Oh, you mean right in front of Myron, who says that all the time, because he, because he's like some Uncle Tom, like Somali or something like that? He'sRebecca Hargraves
02:11:44 Somali,Devon Stack
02:11:45 he's some kind of.. I don't.. it's some kind of like African or I don't even know what it is, but doesn't.. he's not white, he's also not white, you know what I mean? Yeah, and so, but he found out that if he tells white people that the country should be white, knowing full well that's never gonna fucking happen as a result of anything he says, then he gets money, he gets paid, because he's literally, he's like the Zoomer version of the base black guy that all the boomers send money to, and that's that's the thing, is like Zoomers don't understand that they fall for all the same stupid tricks that the Boomers fell for, they just think, no, it's different when we do it. 02:12:21 It's like, no, it's not. It's literally not like you have a based Mexican friend and a base black friend, and like you're making all the same fucking stupid excuses that the Boomers did for Clarence Thomas and everybody else. You know, it's like, no, they're not white, they're not fucking white, and
Rebecca Hargraves
02:12:39 we weren't so racially pure, we'd be making a lot more money,Devon Stack
02:12:42 right? No, that's the thing.Rebecca Hargraves
02:12:44 Myron is Sudanese,Devon Stack
02:12:46 okay? Like, there's a difference, you know. It's yeah. So, here's the thing, like I could, I could sit there and act like, oh well, you know, and be like more of a sieve net. 02:12:59 I could act like more of a sieve net, and the money would come rolling in. If I said that I was like Captain Christian Civnet, the money would come rolling on in, and, but I'm not going to do that, because I don't believe that, and, and, but, guess what, Nick does do that, and that's why the money comes rolling on in.
02:13:15 Not the only reason, right? Again, we already talked about how he's, he's good at rhetoric and whatnot, but let's face it, if he started going full exclusionary white nationalist, which he couldn't do, it'd be be ridiculous because he's not white, but if he was white and he were to do that, and and and not lie about how he believes in like Catholicism, which he's totally full of fucking shit by the way, then yeah, it would be, yeah, money would dry up, money would dry up, but because a bunch of fucking retards out there that think that, you know, like, like Dave was like, oh, the Holy Ghost is speaking through Nick, you know, like, there's all these
02:13:54 fucking retarded Catholics that actually think that he, that a gay Mexican guy that has probably done some shit, has probably done some shit, is like, like, secretly, like, really, oh no, he's really into Catholicism, right? That's why he never goes to fucking church, right? That's why, that's why he says all these like non-Christian things all the time, right? Yeah, no, he doesn't believe that shit, he just knows that if he says he does, that a bunch of people will be like, oh yeah, sweet, he's part of our club.
02:14:23 I mean, I'm so beyond frustrated with how fucking dumb people are. Like, I'm so beyond frustrated, they'll
Rebecca Hargraves
02:14:30 come around though. I mean, you kind of know, they won't. No, they won't. They will now, they will. People have, have made a lot of progression in the last five years. No, they just kind of had to. We kind of had to wait. I mean, Nick will burn out. We're already watching it.Devon Stack
02:14:44 No, I mean, look, he already peaked. I'm not saying it's this isn't about Nick. This is just generally speaking, right? This is the thing, like the reason why, like on my stream, I cover all of these instances where we have white advocates that that try their best and they spend. 02:15:00 Their entire life trying to to wake white people up, or whatever, and and it's never worked. It's never worked, and this is what we're talking about, like I mean, we have at least a record of a century, because that's, you know, around the turn of the century, is when we had a lot of this, you know, immigration start.
02:15:18 So we had, for like a century, we've had white people like fucking ringing the alarm bells and shouting from the mountaintop saying hey white people and it's like fucking snooze fest out there and I'm sorry that's just the way it's going to be that's the way it's going to be there's not going to be some great fucking white awakening out there it's just not going to fucking happen there's going to be a lot of white people that are going to have to die, there's going to have to, I mean, look, we're in the middle of a selection event, and there's going to be a lot of people that, like, well, this Mexican sounds cool, I'm going to listen to him, it's like, all right, well, good luck, you know, have fun, we
Rebecca Hargraves
02:15:50 don't need all the people, the people are sheep, we need, we need the vanguard, we need a few highly competent people, we need 1000 highly competent people, we can do this with,Devon Stack
02:16:02 well, well funded, though. You're missing that part of the puzzle too. There's noRebecca Hargraves
02:16:06 white nationalist billionaire out there.Devon Stack
02:16:10 There isn't, because to be no, think about it, like the closest thing you have is like fucking Elon, and he's not ISIS. He might even be Jewish, for all we know,Rebecca Hargraves
02:16:20 Jewish in his bloodline, yeah.Devon Stack
02:16:22 Well, and his name's Jewish, and he went to a fucking Hebrew school, so it's kind of like, well, you know, he certainly, a lot of his children are Jewish, so you know, it's, you're that's the thing, to get to a billionaire status, you have to be basically more at that point, your identity and your race is, is your class. It has, at that, you know, that's that's you identify with. You can never trust someone that gets to that level to actually be truly a white nationalist that cares about their people, or because if they were like that, they would have prioritized their life in such a way they wouldn't have ended upRebecca Hargraves
02:16:59 achieved that status, right?Devon Stack
02:17:00 But instead, they, they prioritized their status and their wealth, and if that's the kind of person you are, you're not going to fund that stuff. The only way that you would is if you saw some financial gain, you know, like if maybe somehow there was enough popular support for that kind of a movement, where you thought that you could position yourself, some, you know, like by donating, like it's like you would donate to a politician, right? Because if he gets elected, then you know you'll get something back for that, but we're not in any, we're nowhere near something like that, we're nowhere. I want to beRebecca Hargraves
02:17:36 delusional, you don't. The problem with you, Devon, is you never let us be delusional.Devon Stack
02:17:42 Well, that's why, because I don't want you guys planning your lives like this is gonna fucking like that's gonna happen. It's not gonna fucking happen. 02:17:48 You are gonna have all these grifting faggots, you are gonna have all these non-whites that try to grift on the anxieties of whites, you know, like Myron does like Nick does, you're gonna have people that, that throw you a bone rhetorically, but then what's the, you know, what, where does it go? You know what's where, where's the actual, where's the results? What are you gonna leave, Myron, like, if you're so hell-bent on this being a white country, get on a fucking plane and fly back to Sudan, you fucker, like it's like, come on, of course, none of these people are going to do that, and so it's, it's the cakes already been baked, you can't unbake a cake, the ingredients were mixed in and put in the oven a long time ago, and so the only, I mean, whatever, whatever the future is for white people, it's not going to be all of them like rise up one day and kick all the non-whites out. That's just.. I don't anticipate
Rebecca Hargraves
02:18:46 that either.Devon Stack
02:18:48 Yeah, it's not gonna happen anyway. So, all right, we got Rabbi Baby Foreskin Eater.Rebecca Hargraves
02:19:04 Good LordDevon Stack
02:19:06 says coincidence here. Had to change my name for this payment platform. Rebecca Lovely, as always. And Devon, you must have a face for radio.Rebecca Hargraves
02:19:18 No, it pains me to say this because I really want to hate on Devon today, but he did recently send me a selfie to show me his long hair, and Devon is a very handsome man, and he's also super tall, so I always want to fight people on the internet that are like, must be so ugly, and then I'm like, I don't need to sim for death, no,Devon Stack
02:19:37 it's us things people want to be able to talk shit about me for some reason or another, and yeah, there's just.. sorry, I'm just like a night.. I'm a normal dude, I'm a normal dude that all my dirty laundry is out. You guys all know about the tongue ring now, like that's the.. that's like that was like the only big secret. And I'm a normal looking dude, and yeah,Rebecca Hargraves
02:20:06 okay, by definition you're not normal because you're six foot four.Devon Stack
02:20:10 Well, I mean, I'm tall, but like, you know, but yeah, I mean, that's things.. there's sorry, like this, this, this myth that I'm like some kind of like shut-in, you know, like some kind of, like, weirdo quadriplegic or something like that. No, that's that's not true, but, but, yeah, but thanks anyway. I guess, Rabbi Baby Force Canadian, or for saying that, like, I'm, I'm some kind of fucking genetic mess. 02:20:38 I'm getting mad, I'm getting all fucking riled up, I might gonna start fucking torching the place. I'm gonna start fires at my desk. I'm gonna start lighting things on fire drink. This is okay. Yo, yo. Jimbo Rockford says, actually, Rebecca, you have dropped a casual nig bomb on stream. I can't remember what Shout Laws episode it was, but it was one where you weren't streaming on YouTube. You just casually quoted someone.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:21:12 Okay, quoting somebody is not the same.Devon Stack
02:21:16 I supposeRebecca Hargraves
02:21:18 it's not the same. It's not an organic N bomb delivery, you have to call somebody the N word, you have to call somebody for it to count, right?Devon Stack
02:21:31 Yeah, I suppose, I suppose, I don't. Well, the rules have changed, because it used to be like in the 1990s they said "nigger" all the time on on TV, like on the news, or if they, you know, because it was context, right? Like, you could say easy, then said that we niggas need to do, they would just read the quote, and it wasn't like no one was like, "Oh my god, I said nigger, you know, that was like that's recent, that's very recent, I'd say that's within the last 1015 years, but you could say nigger all day long, like 90s and even early 2000s and it might not be the most polite, yeah, and it might not be the most polite thing, or whatever, at the time, but no one was, you know, your life wasn't over. 02:22:18 Then we got Cassandra says with a big dono, great big dono says not a hoax, but unequivocally Jewish. The first time I went to Saks Fifth Avenue without my mother, I ascended the subway stairs and was greeted by a newsstand magazine, and quote, "fuck all my holes.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:22:45 Oh my lord.Devon Stack
02:22:48 Well, there you go. See, that's that's the kind of literature that Abel was very loath to have censored, was, you know, great, great work. ProveRebecca Hargraves
02:23:00 our society.Devon Stack
02:23:01 The last thing America, you know what kind of, what kind of society censors fuck all my holes. I mean, didn't you know that in order to have a civilized society, even fuck all my holes has to be available on the street corner for02:23:18 all
02:23:19 to have.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:23:21 Good Lord.Devon Stack
02:23:22 All right. Well, thank you very much. Cassandra saysRebecca Hargraves
02:23:25 thank you so much. We really appreciate your support.Devon Stack
02:23:28 Yo, Jimbo Rockford says fanboy question, how many times did try? You just said did try, and I don't know. Let me just read it. Did try, and how hard did Matt push back against having Devon on the Beauty and the Beta show?Rebecca Hargraves
02:23:48 Yeah, he wouldn't do it. Yeah,Devon Stack
02:23:50 did you ask him to do it? I didn't know that.Rebecca Hargraves
02:23:52 I did. Yeah, he was just, you know, you're too hot a commodity and such, but I don't remember that. That was so long ago, too. Yeah, I don't know. He's streaming with a Chinese guy and a black guy right now, so you go over there and check it out.Devon Stack
02:24:09 Maybe that guy that was all into what Nick said to, like, the brown people can go watch that show. I don't know how he's surviving. Maybe that's more your speed there, Anonymous. All right,Rebecca Hargraves
02:24:20 them off, guys.Devon Stack
02:24:21 I just.. I fuck yeah. Nick is such a piece of shit that, like, if you're.. if you're literally trying to send me super chats to tell me how based he is, we are on different fucking planets, different fucking planets. Fuck him forever, fuck him forever. And fuck anyone that, like, that looks up to him or thinks that he's based, that means you're, you're fucking so blue pilled that we're, that you're not gonna even get my show.Rebecca Hargraves
02:24:46 Yeah,Devon Stack
02:24:46 likeRebecca Hargraves
02:24:47 people need to get all the times. I don't know who's listening to Nick anymore.Devon Stack
02:24:50 Yeah, it's like telling me, it's like it's like saying a super chat and telling me, like, oh yeah, I was watching Hannity the other night, and oh boy, he was, he was really getting into. Like to like what we need to do about taxes, and you know, trying to make sure that we keep healthcare private. We got Night Trang says, "I'll have to catch the replay if we can achieve a white super majority. Then can I watch sports ball?Rebecca Hargraves
02:25:19 Our people in on the sports ball team representative of American demographics?Devon Stack
02:25:26 No. Here's, here's my look, I've always thought this, even before, like I cared as much about race. Like, here's the thing, unless it's like, like, let's say you were born in, I'm just picking a town, Denver. You were born in Denver, and the Denver Broncos, you know, is like the people on the team are also from Denver, or at least Colorado, right? If that's if they're not even from the state, you know, let alone the city, then then it's just stupid. 02:26:02 It's just like, what, why, why are you even watching? Like, if you're watching because maybe you play football, and these are like the best players, and so, like, you're watching to kind of like get pointers or something like that on how to do a good job. I just don't understand. I have never understood the entertainment value at all.
02:26:22 It's like it's not like you don't know what's gonna fucking happen, right? It's not like it's not like a movie where like you're watching it and like an alien, all of a sudden an alien, what the fuck, there's an alien. It's like it's not like you're gonna be watching a football game and then like an F-15 is gonna like crash land on like the field, and a bunch of lions are gonna fly, you know, fly out from the sides and start attacking people in the stands. No, it's gonna be the same stupid shit. Everything's
Rebecca Hargraves
02:26:45 gonna lose. No one's gonna remember.Devon Stack
02:26:48 Someone's gonna throw a ball to someone else, and they're gonna catch it, and they're gonna run over to like one side of the field. It's like, I have never understood the excitement of that. I've never understood how, like, even if you're like got something wrong with your brain, like those people, like they literally have done CT scans on people that watch sports, and there is like something wrong with their brain. Are theyRebecca Hargraves
02:27:09 retarded?Devon Stack
02:27:10 No, no, they, they literally, they have the same response when they're watching sports that like people that aren't retarded have when they're actually doing something, like because they know I'm serious, like the people that watch sports think they're doing something, like they think that's like why that you see them fit like, like if you ever watch those videos of people when their team wins and they flip out, or just I don't know, anytime anyone, any team in Philly wins and they fucking burn the whole city down, like those people they actually think they're doing something when their team wins, like they think they accomplished something, and they'll even use language like that, like, oh yeah, we won, we won against the Broncos, we really, I mean, I actually used to work for the NFL at one point, I used to get a paycheck from the NFL, and I never said we won,Rebecca Hargraves
02:27:58 really,Devon Stack
02:27:59 yeah, I did, I did animation work for, like, an NFL team, and it was just like I never thought I was, like, part of the team, you know what I mean. So, it's just like,Rebecca Hargraves
02:28:08 yeah,Devon Stack
02:28:10 I used to get box tickets, I used to get box fucking tickets, I would, I would, I would show up because they were free, right? And then I'd eat like the free hot dogs and stuff like that, I would have no idea what the fuck was happening on the.. I was just getting drunk, like I would leave and not know if, quote unquote, we won, like I would have no fucking idea. I would just.. oh, the game's over, all right, time to go out, guys, and I would.. yeah, because I can't even when I'm there, it's boring,Rebecca Hargraves
02:28:38 it's so boring, and it should last forever.Devon Stack
02:28:42 Yeah, for so well, especially now that, because they have to plan for ad breaks, right? Because that's because, like, a bunch of numb schools at home are like, oh, we got to watch our sports balls, so that we can be inundated with advertisements, and so they purposely now make it even longer, like a game's like four fucking hours long, or whatever. So, it's yeah, no sports ball. 02:29:08 No, you guys are, you guys are disappointing me today. It's like I'm gonna fly into a rage pretty soon. Someone's gonna ask me, is it okay to be kind of gay? Can I be kind of gay, like I'm just waiting for, like, what's next. All right, we got Gorilla Hands. Well, there we go. Gorilla Hand says, 'I love Jews. Are you fucking with me now? I'm just kidding. He's
Rebecca Hargraves
02:29:32 got to be. He's a long.. yeah, I knowDevon Stack
02:29:34 Gorilla Hands. I'm just fucking.. then we got Arch Stanton says, well, at least we don't have similar Jewish hoaxers. That's right, nice, nice use of the proper word, putting up political candidates all over the world who pretend to be right wing. Then we'd really be in trouble. Now that's the thing, is this is perfect example of how easy it is for just some random dude with a rape mask to. To get the the media and the American public to buy into some lie, so Tomahawk says, so basically everything has always been fake and gay forever. Well, since the turn of the century, at least.Rebecca Hargraves
02:30:13 Yeah, pretty muchDevon Stack
02:30:14 since the since Abel's family came here from Eastern Europe around the turn of the century with all their friends, uh then we got Iron Cow 86 says I'm so glad we as grammar Nazis now Hoaxters is crazy almost as bad as the author of They of the Rope repeatedly saying hey they hung them I don't know where you trying I don't even know what you're talking about, dude? If you're, hey, if you got who cares if you're gonna fucking talk shit, at least make some fucking sense. I'm gonna lose it, I'm gonna fucking lose it, I'm gonna fucking lose it. I swear to God on these people, Iron Cow 86 I'm gonna fucking lose it,Rebecca Hargraves
02:30:59 dude. Devon's tired, he's a cranky boy. Okay, I'm gonnaDevon Stack
02:31:03 fucking lose on these fucking people, hoaxers. That's not a, that's not a real world or real word. I can't fucking talk that. You guys got me like so discombobulated. I'm literally gonna just start strangling cats over here.Rebecca Hargraves
02:31:19 Oh no, churro, get out of there.Devon Stack
02:31:21 I'm just gonna get my SKS and just blow him away for no reason, and then you'll feel bad. I'll be like, 'No, great. Now, Churro is dead. You happy now?Rebecca Hargraves
02:31:30 Nice going.Devon Stack
02:31:31 Yeah, you killed him,Rebecca Hargraves
02:31:32 Rabbi Foreskin Man.Devon Stack
02:31:35 All right, now we got Yo, Jimbo Rockford says, I remember the push for the sexualization of breast feeding thing, I can remember several different articles with women saying they orgasmed while feeding. I thought that was weird as fuck.Rebecca Hargraves
02:31:49 That isDevon Stack
02:31:51 bizarre. And you know what, some of that very likely is is Jewish shit. You know,Rebecca Hargraves
02:31:57 yeah,Devon Stack
02:31:57 it's some of it is very likely Jewish porn fantasies, quite frankly.Rebecca Hargraves
02:32:03 Yep.Devon Stack
02:32:04 All right. Then we got, uh, Book Track Grooves says Outlaws is sponsored by viewers like you. Thank you. ItRebecca Hargraves
02:32:11 is true. Sponsored by viewers like you. That Devon likes to parade,Devon Stack
02:32:16 yes. Well, only when they're being retarded. Also by the New White Man summer album on Rumble. If you're having trouble finding white pills, do your chores, train hard, and build them. There you go, there you go. All right, then we got Gorilla Hands says get a German Shepherd, Devon. I, you know, look, if I was going to get a dog, well, I don't know if German Shepherds would do well in the heat, is the only thing.Rebecca Hargraves
02:32:47 Yeah,Devon Stack
02:32:47 I think that would probably be a bad idea, but I have always liked German Shepherds and Huskies, you know. So,Rebecca Hargraves
02:32:56 no, you don't like Huskies, don't do it. Musket was the worst,Devon Stack
02:33:01 no, just because you guys had a shit dog, though.Rebecca Hargraves
02:33:05 He was in the Humane Society for two years before my husband adopted him. You know, he bit me one time when he was eating his own puke, and I tried to stop him.Devon Stack
02:33:15 Yeah, there you go. What aRebecca Hargraves
02:33:17 fucker, you're eating your own puke, idiot, idiot dog.Devon Stack
02:33:22 Now we got Mike Hawk, 420 blazing, says the reset isn't boring, it's just not fun.Speaker 5
02:33:30 That's true.Devon Stack
02:33:33 There you go. And then we got scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Gorilla Hand says, how Jewy looking is Devon. Are we talking Woody Allen or Harrison Ford? My guess is he looks like Howard Stern.Rebecca Hargraves
02:33:50 I will say Devon looks. this never happens when I see somebody's face, except with Morgoth. When I saw Morgoth space, I'm like, that's exactly what I was expecting, but that this is what happened when I saw Devon. It was not surprising. It was like, yeah, all right, that's pretty much how I expected things in a good way.Devon Stack
02:34:07 Yeah, I don't know if I did. I look like Norm McDonald, I guess. No, not at all.Rebecca Hargraves
02:34:13 No, Devon's not Jewish at all, not Jewish.Devon Stack
02:34:16 I'm normal American, like I'm literally founding stock American, like every branch on the on the family tree goes back to some like English settler or something like that, like every single one, and I know this because Mormons are obsessive about genealogy,Rebecca Hargraves
02:34:35 genetics. Yeah,Devon Stack
02:34:37 let's see here. Then we got Mike Hawk, 420 Blaze, and says, when you guys make these streams, it makes me want to open up a soap and lampshade factory, my soul yearns for justice.Rebecca Hargraves
02:34:53 Oh, I know, you know, that's one of the most difficult things that you learn in your adult life, is that there really, there really is. Know achieving justice, but you still have to fight for it your entire life. Like, if I always, you know, we were both in true crime, as is evidenced by this podcast, but I'm always watching families like give somebody that raped and murdered their kid the death penalty, or like, be there for that. 02:35:14 There's no justice in that either. I mean, it's as close as we can get to justice, but we're not going to see the kind of justice that we want in our lives. We kind of have to accept that, and we can't just give up, because things will get considerably worse. So, we just have to keep fighting for justice, knowing that we're never going to get the kind of justice that we want, and that's a really difficult, depressing part of becoming an adult.
Devon Stack
02:35:42 Yeah, I mean, look, we're just like I said, we're not going to live, we're not going to, we're not here to be the ones that, that see all these problems resolved, but what we can do is avoid, you know, for example, what's the value of knowing about this Jewish hoax, or if we hoaxed her that doesn't hoax her. If so, you got me saying it now. You got me so like, like a frazzled now toRebecca Hargraves
02:36:09 anything.Devon Stack
02:36:10 Yeah, sure. All right. 02:36:11 So, anyway, the reason why it's good to know about this, this fucking kike faggot here and there is that better is that now you know not to fall for these tricks, you know what I mean, like the value in having the internet is they didn't have it back then, so there was no way to, I mean, I still am surprised that no one remembered the guy with the rape mask, like that he kept wearing over and over and over again to every every trick that he did, but you know, now there's the internet, and so now you do know, and so now you don't have an excuse, like the boomers have an excuse to believe people like this, because how would they know, right? And so that's the value, and doing what we do, and, and trying to learn about how to avoid the, because look, there's there's a guy like him, I promise you, probably more than one guy like him out there today, and so now you know what to look for, hopefully when you encounter that, but at the same time
Rebecca Hargraves
02:37:13 we do this,Devon Stack
02:37:14 yeah, at the same time it's not going to be like Nazi Germany in this country in your lifetime, yo, Jimbo Rockford says I don't know which is funnier, Devon crashing out on Nick Fags or I hypocrite screaming at his audience when they piss him off. I can relate to the inability to suffer fools. Here's some more money. Well, I appreciate it. ThankRebecca Hargraves
02:37:35 you. I love watching i Hypocrite. I love watching LP crash on at his audience. He's like so much more abusive than Devon is to his audience, but as, like, as a content creator, I don't like that term, it makes me sound gay, but you have kind of a love-hate relationship with your audience, right? Because sometimes you move further along and they don't come along with you, and you're like, "Oh my god, but you still need them, you can't do what you do without them, so you have to walk this line of like withholding the building resentment that you have for your audience, while still showing them that, like, you appreciate their support, because if nobody watches it, we're totally screwed. It's a fine line.Devon Stack
02:38:12 I'll just call you if I don't withhold, though. I'll just, I'll just tell you, like, I don't play nice. No, I don't, I don't, I don't withhold.Rebecca Hargraves
02:38:20 This is why we're not making that chew money.Devon Stack
02:38:22 No, it is why it is 100% why I get it, but it's like I just can't play that game, you know? I can't be like, like, yeah, I don't have, you know, I don't think, no, he's not Mexican at all, he's only a quarter Mexican fucking faggot. Ah, if I hear that from one more person, I swear to God. 02:38:47 All right, Yo, Jimbo Rockford also says, oh wait, nope, just did that one. Anime extremist says, holy shit, these super chats are terrible tonight. Is it a full moon? Okay, don't kill me. I searched it on Brave Hoaxter is a word, according to Wick Wiktionary. Well, yeah, according to Wiktionary, but according to your spell checker, type it out. Go to a browser, type out Hoaxter, go to a certain, any text, anything that's got like the little squiggly red line underneath a word that you misspell, it'll tell you it's spelled wrong, so like, look, I'm sure there's lots of words in Old English that are technically words that no one says anymore, you know.
02:39:33 In fact, here, look, I'm gonna, I'm gonna find some words. How about we do that, since you guys are so. oh no, we're gonna do that, so
Rebecca Hargraves
02:39:44 we should be resurrecting the language of the past, though. That's what I'm saying, like, irregardless is in Merriam Webster now.Devon Stack
02:39:51 Oh, that, I guess it's word forRebecca Hargraves
02:39:54 retards,Devon Stack
02:39:54 that I guess it's a word now, just like host store, because it's probably an witch, should. Scary, right? Right. Yeah. You, what else is a word? Let's see here. On the morrow, I'm gonna say instead of tomorrow, I'll say on the morrow from now on. You, what else is a word? There's curl glass. You know that curl glass is a word, it means the shock of plunging into cold water. Curl glass shouldRebecca Hargraves
02:40:26 bring these back. You also wereDevon Stack
02:40:28 twaddle. Twaddle means idle chatter or gossip.Rebecca Hargraves
02:40:34 That's that's amazing. Bring that back. You know, Fortnite.Devon Stack
02:40:38 You know what a piss MeyerRebecca Hargraves
02:40:40 is? I don't.Devon Stack
02:40:41 It's an ant, and that's where piss ant comes from, apparently.Rebecca Hargraves
02:40:45 These, you shouldn't have had examples of such fantastic words.Devon Stack
02:40:49 Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna start using those, and I'm gonna make up some globulous, globulous is also a word, so you would just believe me. I could be, I could make it all this stuff.Rebecca Hargraves
02:41:01 What are your plans on tomorrow? Is it to twaddle?Devon Stack
02:41:07 Oh, I won't be twaddling. I'll definitely not be twaddling. I asked Rock to like write me something in Old English, and it's like it's indecipherable. I don't even know, like I couldn't even pronounce this stuff, it's so fucking ridiculous, but I guess they're all words, I don't know,Rebecca Hargraves
02:41:26 I'm bringing back Twaddle, that's just fantastic,Devon Stack
02:41:29 Twaddle is all right, all right, then we got, let's see here, Professor Chaos says, I don't believe we'll have a white nationalist billionaire, because billionaires have to do business with big financial institutions, i.e. Jews who will never allow it. No, that's that's the other side of that coin, is a, the type of person that would attract would not be most loyal to their race, they'd be most loyal to money in class, and then b, even if they were somehow, and they got lucky the second, I mean, unless they were like really good at hiding their power level. 02:42:04 The second any kind of institutional wealth caught wind of that, they would put the kibosh on that.
02:42:09 So that's that's the problem. Denise, the Celt says, I did find a pick of Devon. I thought you would be more tall, dark, and ominous. You're very English-looking. Your features are so Aryan and regular, you could be a serial killer and never get caught. Yeah, see, I'm just like a normal dude. I just look like a normal dude.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:42:34 You cannot be a normal dude when you're six foot four. That immediately puts you in like the top point 1% of men,Devon Stack
02:42:44 no, that's like there's tall, there's tall ugly guys, like trust, I'm related, yeah, butRebecca Hargraves
02:42:49 you can be a tall ugly kid, that's fine, women will overlook also, have you seen basketballDevon Stack
02:42:55 players, oh my god, there's some, yeah, but you can be tooRebecca Hargraves
02:42:58 tall too, like there's a sweet spot between like six one and six eight, like right before you get into that freak territory, you know.Devon Stack
02:43:06 My kid brothers in the freak territory.Rebecca Hargraves
02:43:09 Oh, really?Devon Stack
02:43:10 Yeah, I'm the shortest dude in my family.Rebecca Hargraves
02:43:12 How tall isDevon Stack
02:43:14 he? He's, he's got to be at least six foot eight. Yeah, because he was, he was taller than me when he was like 13. That's awesome. IsRebecca Hargraves
02:43:22 he a skinny guy?Devon Stack
02:43:24 Well, he was. He was, but I don't like how shit about him. He's also a ginger. All right, we got Professor Chaos says niggardly is a word too, anyways. Keep up the good work. Yes, it is a word that's, but you know, people literally were, they were still using that up until like you couldn't. Bernie SandersRebecca Hargraves
02:43:55 did famously in that clip. Yeah,Devon Stack
02:43:58 yeah, so that was like that wasn't, that's not even that old timing, that was like in use until I'd say like the 50s and 60s, and then when niggers started freaking out about everyone saying nigger, it was like no, we can't even say things that sound like it, you know. 02:44:16 I'm surprised Negro Medela didn't get like didn't go out of business, you know what I mean, wasn't for all those drunk fucking family members of Nick, you know, it would, it would have been gone a long time ago. All right. Well, everyone on everyone on the reservation, I guess. All right, then we got Mike Hawk 420 Blazing, Blazing says I will not be niggardly.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:44:37 That was a sound bite on the Matt and Blonde show.Devon Stack
02:44:42 What wasRebecca Hargraves
02:44:42 Bernie Sanders? I will not be niggardly. We used to play that all the time.Devon Stack
02:44:48 Oh, I have not seen.. um,Rebecca Hargraves
02:44:51 I have a bunch that came through.Devon Stack
02:44:53 All right, let's hear him.Rebecca Hargraves
02:44:55 All right, let's see a bunch. Let's. Hey, Chihuahuas, Tuffy Banana, best Jew crime show on the web, keep it up. And he also said, PS, last time auto corrected, auto correct got me and made it true crime. Um, my, this is a funny story. So, my, my dearest friend here, she sent me something, and she meant to say, like, but it auto corrected to Kike, and I was like, that is so amazing, that means that she must say kite more than she's all theDevon Stack
02:45:23 time, she knows where Emily Yuccas posted a picture of her beat up laptop, and I sawRebecca Hargraves
02:45:32 that, yeah,Devon Stack
02:45:33 all of the the paint from all the keys have been worn off because she's, I'm guessing, because girl girl nails will do that, right, and the one of the only letters that was still there was J, and I thought that would have been worn off like a million years ago, but then I realized, oh no, it's probably because she says she's using the K, she never uses the J,Rebecca Hargraves
02:45:54 she's ascended beyond even saying Jew,Devon Stack
02:45:59 it's like not even, youRebecca Hargraves
02:46:01 know Vincent Pendragon, Devon, you have to do a stream where you show us how you make a short bit or any AI content.Devon Stack
02:46:10 Oh, it's just easy. I mean, just go to Grok and type in, I want a picture of a monkey, and it makes a monkey, and then you adjust,Rebecca Hargraves
02:46:19 adjust incrementally. You gotta, like, you gotta learn how to.Devon Stack
02:46:22 Well, yeah, I mean, you get the hang of it. Like, basically, it's all about specificity. Like, if you can, AI is like a retard that has, that's, or rather, honestly, it's not much different than like, like programming, right? When you write a program, you're writing it, you're writing software, because computers can calculate things a lot faster than humans, but in order for it to do it, because they're also kind of dumb, you have to be really specific about how to calculate it, or it'll get it wrong, and AI is no different, so if you wanted to make a picture and you have, like, a really specific, you know, vision in mind, you have to describe it as specifically as humanly possible, or it's not going to be what you want, because it can't read your mind. 02:47:11 So, like, monkey is a perfect example. If I just said, 'Make a monkey, and I was thinking about snub-nosed monkeys, which are like these weird little Asian orange and white monkeys that are, that are kind of like I kind of, kind of wouldn't mind having one of you guys are talking about dogs and cats, I want a stub nose monkey, perhaps, but the, you know, if you, if you got you looking it up, you look up a snub, no, no, look one up, look up snub nose monkey,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:47:36 really weird looking,Devon Stack
02:47:37 yeah, they're super weird looking, and so theyRebecca Hargraves
02:47:40 look like monkeys,Devon Stack
02:47:40 no, they look like Ewoks, and so it's kind of like if that's what you wanted, and you just put monkey, and it just made some, you know, random monkey, you'd be like, no, no, I want it to be orange, and like, the AI is not going to know why the fuck would I make an orange monkey, right? And so you have to be like really specific with what you want it to do, and what, and, and that's all AI, that whether you're doing research, like if you're just on Chat GPT and you're asking it for research, you have to be really specific about what you want.02:48:10 If you're making AI music, same thing. If you're making AI anything, you have to be really specific. I mean, I used AI the last couple of days to help out with a coding project that I was working on, and same thing, it's like you have to like be hyper specific with what you want, or it's just gonna spit out garbage code that you can't use. Yeah,
02:48:32 so that's really the.. there's no trick, that's the trick is you just have to act like it's act like you're talking to fucking Rain Man,
Rebecca Hargraves
02:48:41 totally, that actually really helps. You have to be hyper specific. Stephen Campbell, I understand why people are sympathetic to a 12.5% Native guy, but mathematically tolerance ruins our breed because it gets incorporated on a long enough time scale. By the way, Devon, it's FST. Oh, isDevon Stack
02:49:01 that the cluster thing?Rebecca Hargraves
02:49:04 Oh, okay.Devon Stack
02:49:05 That has a cluster map he's talking about. Yeah, well, here's the thing, is the like I said, it matters. Perfect example, right? That matters what that, what that dilution is. If you had a glass of water, two glasses of water, and I said one of these glasses of water has one drop of chlorine in it, and one of them has a drop of botulism in it. Well, the one with the drop of chlorine, you could drink it and nothing bad is going to happen. 02:49:35 The one with the drop of botulism, and it will kill you. And so it doesn't like percentage isn't the only thing you have to think about. It's like, what is that percentage, and, like, I said, with the, with the genetics we're talking about, when it comes to Fuentes, it's very genetically distant. It's not like, oh, he's a quarter, like, honestly.
02:50:00 Even like Turkish people are closer related to founding stock Americans than Fontes is, that's that's to give you an idea, and that's not, I'm not just saying that, that's for real, like they're, they are, they are, they have more in common with us genetically than he does, because the population that he, you know, his genes come from was isolated from Europe for 10s of 1000s of years, whereas at least with, if you're from, like, you know, Turkey, there was the geographical closeness that created a closer genetic association, I guess.
Rebecca Hargraves
02:50:49 Right, right. Let's see. L. Quakey says don't for the dog own. 02:50:57 Yay, man, and blondes best friend, trying to keep positive amid today's black pilling Supreme Court ruling, the future hyphenated American hordes will create such vibe vibrant favelas, favelas. I don't know, I'm unaffected by this, because I don't ever expect political or systemic solutions. So, I'm like, that doesn't matter. We're obviously gonna have to take things in our own hands. Thank you for the donut, Steven Campbell. Been based enough deck for decades.
02:51:26 I know the more clever, racist, and clever someone is, the more genetically good they are. I don't even need to see them. Agreed, a big donor from Toffee Banana. Thank you so much. Let me reload, but I think I'm good over here. And Cassandra, I noticed that you sent the same super chat, huge super chat, giant super chat to Devon again with the same note. Please, we can send that back. I don't anticipate that you meant to send this twice, Devon.
Devon Stack
02:51:54 What is it on mine? There's another one popping up on YouTube. You're saying I don't see onRebecca Hargraves
02:52:00 yours. I just saw it come up again, just now.Devon Stack
02:52:03 No, it's not on mine twice.Rebecca Hargraves
02:52:05 Oh, wow. Okay, cool.Devon Stack
02:52:07 I think Rumble just sucks. I think Rumble just,Rebecca Hargraves
02:52:09 but that the whole thing just came up just again in the live chat.Devon Stack
02:52:13 It's not on mine.Rebecca Hargraves
02:52:14 Wow, okay. I don't haveDevon Stack
02:52:16 the last one I've got is my cock 420 blazingRebecca Hargraves
02:52:21 look. Okay, I think we're good. Thank you guys so much for joining us.Devon Stack
02:52:26 All right, thank you guys. And we will be back here next Wednesday at 5o'clock Pacific time, as per usual. I will be doing the Insomnia stream on Saturday at 10 o'clock Pacific time, 10pm Pacific time, and thisRebecca Hargraves
02:52:47 one. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I missed one. Keep going, and then I'll read it.Devon Stack
02:52:51 Well, that was it. That's all. That's all.Rebecca Hargraves
02:52:52 Okay. V-Tubing enthusiasts, not to contribute to the chaos, but you got to admit anime and V-tubers are far better than being end ball. What does this mean? Geo cattle and ball. I'm not sure what this means. I'm sorry. He's trying to sayDevon Stack
02:53:10 that being an anime enjoyer is better than being a sports ball enjoyer, and I would say nope. You guys both get the pit.Rebecca Hargraves
02:53:16 Hell, weebs are far superior than gripers. Weebs are good people. We're not bad. I don't think you're well.Devon Stack
02:53:21 Well, you guys are better than gripers, but who's not like gripers are literal trash people. Most of them are brown, and the rest are gay. SoRebecca Hargraves
02:53:30 I like the weaves. Come on, if itDevon Stack
02:53:33 depends. If you're like, if you're young and you haven't grown out of it, okay? Okay, so okay, but grow out of it, dude. Like, don't be a grown man watching cartoons, okay? And don't, especially if you're making part of your good enough of your identity to where you're calling yourself a weeb about a four, you know, from if you're drawing from a foreign culture to do that, are you even white at that point? Are you spirituallyRebecca Hargraves
02:54:04 Japanese?Devon Stack
02:54:04 Are you.. it doesn't matter. Are you spiritually Asian now? I'm supposed to.. I'm supposed to Japanese. No, it's not. I'm supposed to sign off on on those fucking slant-eyed zipper head like nuke fodder, like you know. We dropped the fucking atom bomb on those on those fucking chinky-eyed bastards,Rebecca Hargraves
02:54:22 yet they persevered.Devon Stack
02:54:25 Yeah, which means we ought to keep an eye on those sneaky fuckers. That's why we don't let them have an army, because the second we do, they're gonna be building that Voltron shit, they're gonna be making like Mecca, Mecca, whatever. And in theRebecca Hargraves
02:54:37 hierarchy of races, Japanese are second to white,Devon Stack
02:54:46 I mean, probably, I mean, I'd say that probably,Rebecca Hargraves
02:54:50 yeah, totally,Devon Stack
02:54:52 and in fact they're above some whites, you know, like the well, whites, quote unquote, you know, like, you know, like the mud. People, whites, the swarthy whites. Look at you, Italy. I don't.. if you.. if you told me, where would you rather sleep outside, like on the street, with no worries of being like mugged or raped to death? You know, Japan. Yeah, yeah, some city in Japan, or some random city in Italy. I'd say Japan.Rebecca Hargraves
02:55:21 Oh yeah, absolutely, for sure. Japan was so awesome. Okay, let's close out on that note. Grumpy Devon needs to get some sleep. We will see you next Wednesday. I do have a few tickets still available to my event on july 18 in Manhattan. Go to my pin tweet, blondes underscore tweets if you would like to buy a ticket. I think we've got like a handful available. I'm not entirely sure. Check out my show with Cameron McGregor tomorrow, every Thursday at 4pm Pacific Standard Time on my YouTube channel, Blonde and the Belly of the Beast. We will see you next Wednesday. Bye bye.