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Outlaws: Episode 24, Jason Arday - 08/19/2026

Display stream descriptionRebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack discussed the rise and fall of British academic Jason Arday following revelations that many aspects of his public biography, academic credentials, charitable achievements, and personal history were fabricated or exaggerated. The hosts examined media coverage that portrayed Arday as an inspirational figure, reviewed allegations of plagiarism and résumé inflation, discussed the role of diversity hiring and affirmative action in elite academic institutions, and explored broader questions about university admissions, credentialism, higher education, meritocracy, and demographic change. The latter portion of the stream consisted of audience questions, commentary on current events, and discussion of employment, higher education, dating, mental health, and demographic trends.
Full Summary
Rebecca Hargraves
00:03:26 the the personality. It has been weird. I didn't watch all this in real time because I've been kind of checked out of the news cycle for the last two weeks, and so I found out about all of this when I found out that Jason Arday. You're watching out with Rebecca Hargraves and Devon Stack.
Devon Stack
00:03:33 Hey, hey there!
Rebecca Hargraves
00:03:36 Welcome to Outlaws. I'm Rebecca Hargraves,
Devon Stack
00:03:39 and I am. Damn, Devon Stack. I was waiting for the song to kind of finish that you can't hear.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:03:47 I can't hear it, so I I can't I can't pace the timing. I can't do any of that.
Devon Stack
00:03:52 That's all right. So anyway, this is outlawed.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:03:55 Are you ready to talk about the most saturated topic you've been holding? Probably a different spin.
Devon Stack
00:04:02 We've spiced it up a little bit, I think. You know, everyone's everyone's by now well aware of the the dead woke nig. So you know, we're just we're gonna remix it maybe a little bit, add a little flavor.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:16 You watched all of Professor Dutton's videos on it.
Devon Stack
00:04:21 I well, I watched like three of them. He has so many. I don't know if how many if if he had more than that or not. But I watched three of them, and I watched like four or five videos on this topic.
00:04:34 we will not be the same. I can tell you that much as these other videos. He
Rebecca Hargraves
00:04:37 had some good stuff to say about the psychology behind this, and he accurately predicted his suicide.
Devon Stack
00:04:44 Did he? I didn't know he predicted. This is
00:05:10 I, I just, I had no idea who he was, and then I saw these people like, "Yeah, look at the the dead woke nig, and I was like, "Oh, all right, whatever. And then you were like, "Hey, listen to a stream, I was like, "Ah, now I got to find out about this guy. I went my whole life without knowing about this guy. Was this
Rebecca Hargraves
00:05:24 research fascinating, though?
Devon Stack
00:05:26 It was. It was pretty interesting, and in fact, so for those of you out there who don't know who this is, you know, we're gonna give you a little little primer so you you can kind of get the the history. So let me let's go to here real quick. Boom! Look at that.
00:05:42 That was quick. No, no wipe. No wipe at all. All right. So I'll let we'll let BBC do the talking. This is a he's he was a British black intellectual, which already sounds ridiculous. He was disabled and he overcame all this adversity, like not being verbal until he was like 12 years old. He couldn't read or write until he was like 18, and he became a Cambridge professor somehow because, well, he just had you know that that that spark inside him, that intellectual spark that drove him to the highest levels of the academic institutions in the UK, but anyway, let's let's have the. When you look
Rebecca Hargraves
00:06:27 into his eyes, don't you just see that spark of human intelligence, and you can just tell that he was something special. This autistic retard.
Devon Stack
00:06:35 Oh yeah, yeah. He's he's something else. So let's let's let's let's hear the BBC what they have to say about him.
Jason Arday
00:06:44 I always felt it was a privilege to have a period of 11 years where maybe I couldn't speak and I couldn't converse in a way that everyone else could because it allowed me to see things in a different way. Professor
Reporter
00:06:56 Jason Arday was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder at the age of three. He couldn't speak until he was 11, and read or write until he was 18. Throughout his early years, his parents continued to believe in him. Therapists predicted he would need full-time assistance throughout his life. How wrong they were.
Jason Arday
00:07:35 Okay. It
Reporter
00:07:37 was this man, college tutor Sandro Sandri, who helped teach Jason to read and write at
AI Singer
00:07:44 18. There's one
Jason Arday
00:08:05 thing you said to me which I never forgot, and it was when I was 22, and I said to you, I was thinking about doing a PhD, and you said to me like, you know, it would be the greatest story in the world if the kid who didn't know how to read and write was managed to get a PhD, like, and you said, like I, I think you know we can take on the world, or you can take on the world, and you can win. And I and I and I never and I never forgot that. Here's
Reporter
00:09:00 his new boss at Cambridge.
Hilary Cremin
00:09:02 We do have a lot of work to do, but I feel really optimistic. Part
Reporter
00:09:06 of his research will look at new ways to make higher education more accessible for everyone.
Jason Arday
00:09:13 What can we do to ensure that this isn't a marked appointment in five years' time? How can this become the norm?
Hilary Cremin
00:09:19 We've listened to the voices of our black scholars and our black students, and some of it has not been easy to hear, to be honest,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:09:29 or understandable
Hilary Cremin
00:09:30 to face up to some of the structural issues that people that people face. This stupid bitch, yeah, we can tell what's going on. You want him to scratch that itch? You don't care if it's wrong. You got that jungle fever clouding up your brain. Western civilization is going down the drain.
AI Singer
00:10:00 We
Hilary Cremin
00:10:02 are so lucky to have you. You are the best in the world in terms of the research that you do.
Speaker 3
00:10:20 Yeah, that's me. I used to be tottered. Now I'm a motherfucking genius and shit. All them white ladies' panties be dropping.
Devon Stack
00:10:41 So there we go.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:10:45 I don't even care if AI destroys the world. It's been worth it. So basically,
Devon Stack
00:10:49 he was-he told everyone that he he couldn't talk until he was 11. He couldn't read till he was like 20, and then suddenly he has like a PhD, and I mean he. I mean his resume was a lot more impressive than that, and they shopped him around like they they acted as if like he was the answer their prayers. This was the proof that the racists were wrong, and all these stupid white lady academics clearly wanted wanted some of that, and they they it was crazy. Like I would have thought that they would check into your background for a job like that, right? I was just
Rebecca Hargraves
00:11:33 going to say that in in all the research that I did, I didn't find anybody until he was outed as a plagiarist that had done their due diligence and done a background check. Also, the guy that said that he taught them that he taught him to read, so they they must have colluded, had some kind of story, and then decided to shop him around together.
Devon Stack
00:11:51 Well, that that's the other thing too is the guy that he kissed in that video. He's like, "Oh, this is the guy that taught me how to read when I was like 20. It's like, "Oh, is that what you call it? Taught you to read, huh? No, but like I couldn't figure out, like, because obviously he knew how to read, and he knew.
00:12:08 I mean, he was talking there. They they went back and talked to classmates of his, and and you know he was a class clown and was talking. I mean, he was he wasn't even like a quiet kid, you know, let alone nonverbal. So it was all bullshit, and so it's a little amazing to me that you had this guy saying that, like, oh yeah, I taught him how to read and and all this other shit, and and kind of backing up his story.
00:12:32 And but then, but then, it all kind of made sense because he wasn't just a professor; they used him as is like this poster boy, not only for like this is you know this is what blacks can achieve if you just give them a chance you know that sort of a thing, but also once he got on the microphone, this is this is the kind of stuff he was saying. So this was they put him on this is well I guess is CNBC here,
MSNBC Reporter
00:12:58 and now to an inspiring story out of the UK. As a child, Jason Arday had the odds stacked against him. He was diagnosed with a developmental disorder, an autism spectrum disorder, at an early age. He could not speak until the age of 11, and he couldn't read or write until he was 18.
Wayne
00:13:14 I never learned to read.
Reporter
00:13:20 That true?
Wayne
00:13:21 Yes, everything except the reading part.
Devon Stack
00:13:25 But when he when he actually got interviewed, he doesn't talk about like all he talks about is basically black nationalism. Like it's literally like it was actually kind of shocking. Like this interview, I'm gonna play a clip here in a second. But like he he sounds like a like it's the black version of white nationalists. I mean, he basically says that I'm in this position now, and and what I don't like is when I look around, there's there aren't people that look like me. And it's like, well, it's because you're in fucking England.
00:13:52 How about that? But he wants he wanted to advocate for more black people in these higher positions in academia, which is kind of funny because, like you know, now that we know how we got there, it's like, well, but but this is this is his rhetoric in this in that in this
Rebecca Hargraves
00:14:10 their best candidate.
Devon Stack
00:14:11 Yeah, this was their guy.
Jason Arday
00:14:13 Standing upon this vista, one of the things that you would want is to look to your left and to look to your right and to see people that look like you, and I guess in the UK, I don't see that. And there's been a generation of amazing people who have been lost to institutional and systemic racism.
00:14:31 And what I want to do is use this platform to continue the work I've been trying to do over the last 10 years to bring as many people of color on the vista with me, so that when I look to my left and I look to my right, I can see people that are reflective of a wider, multi-ethnic, multicultural society, particularly Black women who face particular difficulties through these systemic systems that often oppress them in a very unique and violent way.
Devon Stack
00:15:00 Yeah, that's what we need-more black women in positions of power.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:15:04 This guy supposedly not a faggot, married with children. Although I guess that really doesn't mean much, but
Devon Stack
00:15:10 no, it doesn't.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:15:12 What what is this? What is this? He's had like work done. He's incredibly effeminate. He-I thought he was a tranny when I saw the the first picture. Doesn't he look like a tranny?
Devon Stack
00:15:23 He does look kind of like a tranny, but like yeah. So this guy, you know, I guess so. The official backstory is, you know, he was born in 1985. He goes to school and you know doesn't talk until he's he's 11 or 12. Then he doesn't read or write till he's 18, and then after that he goes into well, I guess he gets his degree. Like he got a degree in PE, right? Didn't he get like
Rebecca Hargraves
00:15:51 something like that? Yeah. Let's see. Apparently he knew sign language though, and so this this should have been an immediate tip off because if you have a kid that's like like severely mentally retarded, but they're fluent in sign language. Wouldn't you be like, they're not retarded?
00:16:06 There's something up with their their language processing center because learning sign plus sign language is not easy. It requires a you know a very extensive combination of like like motor skills and the interaction with your brain, your learning processing center. It's like were people like that doesn't make any sense. Nobody asked this guy any questions.
Devon Stack
00:16:29 No, they didn't. And and in fact, it wasn't until what like 20. Let's see here. What year was that that they actually? Yeah, it was like literally this year. So 2026, Nathan Koffness, which is one of these like Yarvin Jews, did a sub. I think a Substack article where he went through, and because Nathan Koffness went to Cambridge also.
00:16:58 In fact, I think he was a a former fellow, before they kicked him out for being a racist Jew, yeah, which I'm going to talk about that in a second. But he did a, I guess he did an article in July, talking about how he was, you know, basically had falsified a lot of his his background, including so he extensively plagiarized his Ph.D. thesis, which was a 2015 Ph.D. thesis. He claimed to be a visiting professor at Ohio State University for the Office of Diversity Inclusion, but he never held a any role like that at Ohio State University, he claimed that he was in
Rebecca Hargraves
00:17:44 Columbia. They didn't background check his work education. Is that what you're telling me right now?
Devon Stack
00:17:48 Yeah, it's almost like if you just show up at dreadlocks, you can be like, "I'm a professor at whatever, and and you can charge to to speak at a university, and they won't.
00:17:57 I can't believe that they must have known. Well, that's the thing is, it it he he was around so often and in so many other you know so many places you would expect someone to like just Google his name and find out you know if his background checked out and no one ever did or at least you know they didn't stop him from doing this because that wasn't the first time he claimed he was a visiting professor at the University of Glasgow Glasgow School of Education.
00:18:23 They Glasgow confirmed that he he worked there, but he wasn't a professor of education or like that. He did. He was doing speaking engagements always as if he was saying he was an honorary, you know, professor of this, or you know, he said he had like some kind of association with Durham, all all kind of made up, you know, all or or wildly exaggerated.
00:18:47 Like he might have like had some kind of you know teacher's assistant job or something like that. Right. In in different interviews, he he talked about how he had raised $5 million for charity. That was all made up. He claimed to have run 600 miles in six days for charity. That's
Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:09 impossible.
Devon Stack
00:19:10 Well, and then when he got called out on, he was like, "Oh, I'm I'm sorry. It was actually 12 days.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:15 Right. Or he said also that he was part of some some group that collectively did that.
Devon Stack
00:19:20 Right. And that and then still
Rebecca Hargraves
00:19:22 let him keep lying after that.
Devon Stack
00:19:23 Yeah, and then he separately claimed that he ran 300 miles in three days. I don't know. Maybe maybe the people are just well, he's black. You know, they they can run fast. So like he he he just made up shit all the time, and this you know for some reason, it never got back to him.
00:19:42 So anyway, so Nathan Confis does this article that kind of goes through and and outlines a lot of his bullshit, and immediately it's kind of people people say, oh well, he's this guy. This guy's a racist because he you know he's a he's one of those Yarvin. Nazis.
00:20:00 He's a Yarvin Nazi, and he believes in race realism. Now, here's the problem. I've talked about this several times about having Jews in your movement, and my saying is, yeah, a junior movement is not a junior movement, or will never be a junior movement. But you will be the goy in his, and Nathan Confess is a perfect fucking example of this. Is that a
Rebecca Hargraves
00:20:24 Devon original quote? That's very good.
Devon Stack
00:20:26 That is a Devon original quote. Is a Jew in your movement will never be a Jew in your movement, but you'll be the boy in his, and that is true, 100% of the time. And Nathan Cotfis basically he's like the poster boy for it because he acts as if, like a lot of those Yarvin types, will act as if he is a race realist, and you guys are right. You know, blocks have low IQ, and I mean, you know, of course, asterisk.
00:20:52 Oh, and and well, you know, as long as you agree that Jews have the highest IQ, and that explains why they're overrepresented in everything. And what she does-that's what he says. In fact, in this interview, I'm gonna play a little clip just so you can see like what we're dealing with when you when you think that some Jew is gonna be a race realist for you, or you know, advocate for you know white well advocacy really.
00:21:17 So this guy, while he he says like I'm a race realist and I believe in genetic differences in groups and you know particularly intelligence differences and you know he'll also say that Kevin McDonald is a Nazi and he's anti-Semitic and that the only thing that explains the disparity and you know the overrepresentation in with Jews in positions of of influence and power is there.
00:21:48 They've got like mega brain IQs, and in this interview that I that I came across because obviously because he's the one that wrote the the first article, he was on some I don't know some like douchebag looking podcast where they they asked him about his past because they kind of dismissed it at first. Like the leftists were like, "Oh, you know, because that's the other problem when you have these Jews in your in your quote unquote movement too, is they become like the you know the the approved person to refer to in these conversations that take place with the opposition, right? So the left-that's
Rebecca Hargraves
00:22:25 what happened with Curtis Garvin,
Devon Stack
00:22:27 right? Exactly, exactly. So they they they become the boogeyman. They defined, you know, the the the guardrails and what's what's acceptable, what's not.
00:22:37 And right away, he he said you know in this podcast he's like oh well I don't like you know the alt right you know they're all they're all anti-Semitic and whatnot and he then starts talking about how there are IQ differences in race and that and he goes into like that case with Harvard where you have you know like the
00:23:00 Asian students that were suing Harvard because they were getting scored low on this made-up category about personality, and then blacks would apply with like much lower academic credentials, and they would be scored really high on personality, and so they would be allowed in, and the the Asians wouldn't.
00:23:21 And during this lawsuit, a lot of well, Harvard had to because of discovery and everything else. Harvard had to basically admit that if they weren't to if they didn't you know fudge the numbers by making up this like you know nebulous personality category, blacks basically wouldn't go like zero blacks would go to Harvard, and so because if he if he just judged everyone based on on their academics, so anyway he talks about this, and you would think well if this is like one of the good ones, right?
00:23:51 This Jew is one of the good Jews. He's gonna he's gonna look at that and say well yeah at minimum he's gonna be like a libertarian about it and say well we should be race blind.
00:24:02 We should be race blind, and just you know, if no blacks are good enough to get accepted into Harvard, then they then we should just not let them in. Well, that's not what he does. So here's I got two little clips here I want to play to give you an idea of what we're dealing with when you when you when you have these so-called base Jews in your movement.
Winston Marshall
00:24:19 I note in this piece you're very clear about criticizing anti-Semitic white nationalists, right? So that's
Devon Stack
00:24:29 oh wait it's
Nathan Cofnas
00:24:30 you're you're very clear about that in in the piece, but there's lines from this that got you in trouble in 2024. So the big famous line is you wrote under a colorblind system that judged applicants only by academic qualifications, blacks would make up 0.7% of Harvard students. And am I right in understanding that that line was what was the line used against you in 2024 as as evidence of or quote unquote evidence of you being racist?
00:24:57 That was one of the main the main ones. Yeah. So. So that's literally a statistic from Harvard. Harvard conducted an internal study in 2013, which concluded that if admissions were based only on grades and test scores, without like the funny personality business and and and all that-that the undergraduate population would be actually 0.67% so slightly less than 0.7% black.
Devon Stack
00:25:32 So everyone's like, "Oh, he's based, right? Because he's talking about race and IQ, and he taught-he brought up a Harvard statistic that was from an internal study saying that you know basically no blacks would go to Harvard if they actually judged him equally without any kind of consideration for personality, whatever the fuck that means.
00:25:52 Now here's here's the problem though. He quickly clarifies that just because just because he believes in in race and IQ, and and and he and it's funny. See, this is this is what the Jews fucking do, right? He says like, "Oh yeah, I I hate DEI. Well, does he? Let's let's have a little listen. Let's let's have a little listen.
Nathan Cofnas
00:26:16 And it was Harvard's was forced to admit that if they didn't do any of this stuff, if they just accepted based on academic qualifications, then the black population would be less than 0.7% black, compared to the current. At the time, it was like like 12 and a half, 13% black. So most of the black students who were admitted would not have been admitted under a colorblind system,
Winston Marshall
00:26:46 right? Okay, but you don't like the colorblind system yourself, but for different reasons.
Nathan Cofnas
00:26:51 Well, that's the thing. So people just quote this and they say, "Well, look, because people don't understand the difference between saying something is the case and being happy that it's the case. They think that I'm gloating about this and saying that is good to have fewer black college students, which is in context not what I was saying. In fact,
00:27:12 I was saying I was responding to those people who think that the issue will go away if we become colorblind, and I'm saying that if we adopt the policy of colorblindness, we're going to have disparities that are far larger than people recognize, because most people don't know this. What I say here, even though Harvard, you know, it's Harvard statistics and it was publicized, it's not well known.
Winston Marshall
00:27:41 So you think by being colorblind, it will perpetuate differences that exist already.
Nathan Cofnas
00:27:46 Well, if we adopt a policy of colorblindness, the racial disparities in representation will become massive, far larger than people could possibly anticipate if they're not familiar with these data.
Winston Marshall
00:27:58 Can Can you explain to me why? Because I've I've not heard that before.
Nathan Cofnas
00:28:01 Well, currently, for example, at Harvard, there are I think the latest figures are like 14, 15% black among the undergraduate population. But according to Harvard's study, without affirmative action, it would be 0.7% So less than 1% So,
Winston Marshall
00:28:25 so you actually support DEI policies.
Nathan Cofnas
00:28:27 So what I say, I don't. I'm not saying I. Hold on, watch, watch
Devon Stack
00:28:32 the Jew, watch the Jew, because like he's he's saying
Rebecca Hargraves
00:28:35 little Jew. Oh yeah, no,
Devon Stack
00:28:37 watch how he spins this because it's it's incredible. Because he's saying that, like he's basically saying, like the first part, that's what we say. You know, if you were to actually judge people by merit, you'd have like zero black people basically at Harvard. You get like 15% that shouldn't be there. That's absurd. That's 15% of our elite education institutions that are being, and that's just black people. I mean, who knows how this extends out to all the brown people, right? So that are being
Rebecca Hargraves
00:29:04 taken from white men that can use it to get high power jobs and and be basically the new aristocrats of society. This is totally socially destabilizing,
Devon Stack
00:29:13 right? And so and so this guy is like saying, well, hold on, you say you don't like DEI, but now you're saying that it's going to perpetuate. It's gonna perpetuate like this. This it's no different than a leftist Jew. It's literally he just calls it something else. Like this. This is incredible. Check this out.
Nathan Cofnas
00:29:30 Support DEI policies because DEI has the connotation that your your sorry recruiting you're recruiting specifically to address historical injustice. Right now, what I would advocate under certain circumstances for certain positions is a quota system to affirmative action. You can call it a firm, but. So it's just
Rebecca Hargraves
00:30:02 it's the
Devon Stack
00:30:04 same thing. He's just calling it something else, you know.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:30:07 Yeah,
Devon Stack
00:30:07 it's so crazy because it's like so he doesn't have a problem with racial quotas that disenfranchise white people. He just has a problem with like the reason for it. So it's like, oh no, no, we should still like you know give them to give it the the positions to niggs that don't deserve it. Just I just don't like it that it's framed a way where it sounds like it's because of historical injustice. It should be framed in a way that it's modern day injustice because that's what he's saying, right? Like that's what because what what other problem could he possibly be trying to address here? So he just doesn't like that it's it's based on you know some perceived injustice over slavery or something like that, but rather it should be based on what blacks being stupider. I mean, I mean, because I don't understand. Like I don't understand. So this is the problem.
00:30:59 You get these people that act like they're based because they said something about race and IQ. People throw money at them and think, "Yeah, now we're fine. We got like a real intellectual Jew on our side. Yeah, and then this is what you fucking get out of it. So this is the big fucking scary race race realist Jew that's on Team Yarvin right now. So this is this is the kind of bullshit that you get. Anyway, so this guy was the one that wrote the article, or I guess the the initial article talking about Jason Arday not you know not having the credentials that he claimed to have had, and people because because he's the big racist, right?
00:31:39 Yeah, as we can just as we just saw, they a lot of people dismissed it, and it wasn't until the story was picked up by I forget her name, but there was a female journalist that got his book and like went through his book and kind of went over all of his claims and contacted some of his old classmates and found out that it was, it was all bullshit. It was all bullshit. So yeah, that's that's how that's basically how he was exposed, and that that all took place relatively recently. And let's see here,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:32:18 the audacity of this guy to do this in the internet era. It is so hubristic. He must have known that he was going to get caught at some point. This reminds me of Rachel Dolezal. Like, how do you run a grift like this? And you're like, no one is like, how do you sleep at night? Like, people will find out.
Devon Stack
00:32:35 But he got away with it for so long. You know what I mean? So, like, I think that if you're like this pathological liar, narcissist, and you get away with it for a while, you just think it's going to go on forever, you know. But that means
Rebecca Hargraves
00:32:46 that he had such confidence in the narrative surrounding DEI and black excellence to never change, to never change, that that he thought that this was not never going to hurt him. I mean, that I find that so insulting.
Devon Stack
00:33:04 Yeah, but I just think that I mean I. That's why I kind of feel like he probably had people in the know that were just like help. I don't know how you did. There were people at
Rebecca Hargraves
00:33:14 Columbia that knew about this for sure. You cannot tell me nobody did any kind of background check on him. The guy that lied about teaching him to read. I'm sure that he was some smarmy Jew. Was that guy not Jewish?
Devon Stack
00:33:25 No. So what you were
Rebecca Hargraves
00:33:26 saying?
Devon Stack
00:33:27 No, because I couldn't. Well, I couldn't find saying whether he was or wasn't. But his last name was like it almost sounded like Italian. And when I looked up his exact name, there were other. It was. It came up with a bunch of people that weren't him. So I couldn't. I couldn't find. Yeah, I couldn't find out if he if he was Jewish or not. But I, you know, it could have been. I just couldn't find a definite yes or no. But yeah, it was picked up by mainstream outlets. The Telegraph did, I guess, an article.
00:33:59 The Times and the Guardian started going through his exaggerated past. He was also he made up stuff about medical conditions. He said that he had like a brain tumor at one point. Said he had testicular cancer. Said he had Epilepsy, you know, obviously like the the fundraising and the walkathon or runathons or whatever the thing he was talking about.
00:34:29 They and then, but this is this is all early this month, so this is actually like within like the last few weeks. This has been unfolding. Arday then starts responding by saying that oh, there must have been he made some mistakes in his in his autobiography and and that part of it was it was inadequate supervision and his autism learning by imitation that that that caused him to make up stuff and that and that he's definitely.
00:35:00 Wasn't lying, and and and then started claiming that this was all racially motivated, and it was motivated by ableism because you know because he's still leaning hard into this. I I'm autistic and I can't help myself. I'm I'm just a tard. And and look, people you know they circled the wagons because I think they were hoping it would kind of go away, and then August 5, so just a few weeks ago, Cambridge announced that they were going to do an investigation into his qualifications and his honorary appointments, and he resigned the same day, and in in fact, he he he also made up.
00:35:43 He he said there was like some guy that that attacked him with a knife or something like that, but he never called the cops over it. Like he was just he was just he was just a pathological pathological liar. And then they still Simon and Schuster still published his memoir after all this, so like because it hit the bookstores on the 11th, so all this went down on the fifth.
00:36:08 His memoir called "Great and Unfortunate Things" gets published on yeah, which is interesting title. Gets published on the 11th, and then on august 14, he is found unresponsive at a South London address and pronounced dead at the scene at age 41. And I actually, because we don't have any footage of this, I reimagined. I reimagined what this was like, yeah, like what his last moments on Earth would have been like after after facing this firestorm of criticism, people combing through his past and and and and being faced with the reality that he was finally going to have to atone for all of these lies that he'd been telling for decades about you know his his various afflictions and and his his great accomplishments.
00:37:12 I I just you know I wanted to know like if we could maybe like together experience a an artistic interpretation of his of his last moments on Earth. So this isn't exactly how it went down, but this is how in my head this is how it went down.
AI Singer
00:37:48 Damn, they found out I wasn't tardy. Well, I mean beyond just God and variety, Nick Todd taught it. I made all that shit up. I made it all up. Why didn't someone tell me the internet existed? I've been found out. Now I gots to end it all. Do me like that. Goodbye, cruel.
00:38:30 What you doing, white bitch?
00:38:34 You can't save me now. Leave me alone, woman. I wanna die. Let me die, bitch.
Devon Stack
00:39:04 So that's that's how it happened in my head.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:39:09 Did he jump off a building for real?
Devon Stack
00:39:11 No. Well, maybe I don't know.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:39:14 I didn't even look into the details of the suicide. I forgot. Well, they said
Devon Stack
00:39:17 unresponsive. I mean, technically, if he jumped off a building and they found you on the bottom. You'd probably be unresponsive. So
Rebecca Hargraves
00:39:24 yes, you would. Yes, you.
Devon Stack
00:39:26 I mean, I don't know, but that's how it happened in my head. You know. So this
Rebecca Hargraves
00:39:34 is the best thing that's ever been done with AI. Yeah.
Devon Stack
00:39:36 Did you like that? The it do be like that? I
Rebecca Hargraves
00:39:43 got to.
Devon Stack
00:39:45 What you doing, why, bitch? Let me die. So yeah, faced with the the the the shame of having to come clean. Obviously, he just ended it all. Like the coward, narcissist, pathological liar that he was. So
Rebecca Hargraves
00:40:07 Edward Dutton was talking about how this was like a punishment suicide. Who was he punishing? Claim the racists, the many racists that outed him for his his myriad false. Because
Devon Stack
00:40:20 they definitely wouldn't make like jokey AI videos about him killing himself instead. Like they they'd feel really bad that he did that, right?
Rebecca Hargraves
00:40:27 I know. I feel 0% guilty about this. Like like Daddy was like, "Oh, and it's an unfortunate thing that he killed him. Like I don't give. I've never given less shit about anything in my life.
Devon Stack
00:40:40 Well, I wonder. I do wonder, though, like if if like the well, like for example, the the Nathan Coffnesses of the world will now, you know, express regret or or you know something like that. Because I I did see a lot of the videos I watched were were produced prior to his his suicide, and they were they were like I mean they weren't like having as much fun as we are about it but like you could tell like they they thought it was all very hilarious you know like the whole rent running 600 miles in in six days and that sort of thing and I got the sense that had they produced those videos after he he offed himself that they would do
Rebecca Hargraves
00:41:21 that yeah
Devon Stack
00:41:22 that they that they that they would address it differently. So I mean, I I don't know. I mean, to some extent, I mean, but at the same time, it's like I don't know how who would be possibly punishing. Is he still was he still married? Like
Rebecca Hargraves
00:41:34 yeah, Andy has two kids.
Devon Stack
00:41:36 Yeah, so he was just being a selfish douchebag, which is to be expected, but I don't know. Like the larger thing with this, the larger problem with this isn't so much the fact that you know you had some DEI guy that got a position that he shouldn't have had. It really kind of extends across the board. It shows you how all of these different. I mean, because it's he's not an isolated case. Well, I mean, just for fuck's sake, if Harvard is is accepting, I mean, that's that's. I'd like to know how many students actually go to Harvard because if it's 15% of the entire student body are black people that shouldn't be there, and that's they're graduating that many black people with Harvard degrees every fucking year. That's and they're
Rebecca Hargraves
00:42:25 becoming doctors. They're
Devon Stack
00:42:27 becoming
Rebecca Hargraves
00:42:27 and stuff like that. Doctors
Devon Stack
00:42:29 and and see. Can you imagine the
Rebecca Hargraves
00:42:31 medical liability of of this outcome of opening up our elite institutions to substandard minorities? I mean, the the the effects are widespread. Yeah, you remember in 2023 when Chris Rufo did this expose on Claudine Gay and a number of and a number of other people from Harvard. She was the president of Harvard. She also extensively plagiarized. She like lifted and paraphrased near verbatim paragraphs from other scholars in her dissertation from 1997, and then Chris Rufo went totally autist mode and found tons of other DEI folk in in elite educations.
00:43:15 Like I think, let's see, University of Wisconsin, the Chief Diversity Officer, University of West DEI officer for staff at Columbia University. There were some at MIT. Six of seven were black, and it was crazy. Like all of them were recent dissertations. 40 instances of exact verbatim copying of passages or tables without proper attribution, and then Christina J. Cross, Harvard Sociology Assistant Professor, and she discussed race, family inequality, and then she she had the same thing. It was like every every one of these people basically plagiarized their entire dissertation. God knows what else.
Devon Stack
00:43:56 Right. Well, if
Rebecca Hargraves
00:43:57 you don't have the credibility to to you know, take ownership or do any of your actual work, especially in terms of a dissertation, you just have to assume that the the bulk of their career is based on the work of of white people. Like, what's the way around that? The
Devon Stack
00:44:13 interesting wrinkle with that story too is the only reason why that was brought to light was these were people that were considered anti-Semitic. See, this is yet another instance of Jews letting you have a little taste of race realism to suit their own objectives.
00:44:32 You know, because in in that case, Claudine Gay was on the side of the Gaza protesters, and that's the only reason why they exposed her falsified academic record was to get get her out of there and replace her with a Jew, which is what they did.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:44:49 Yes, and so how many people are flying under the radar that just have not said anything about Jews? Yeah, they just haven't pissed
Devon Stack
00:44:56 off the Jews yet, you know, and that's unfortunately. That's that's kind of like the it's the same thing about the you know having you know you'll never have a junior movement because they'll they'll they'll they'll leverage the the primed ready to criticize the obvious race and IQ issue white population they'll throw you a fucking bone and get you to attack these people when it's when it's convenient for them when it gets them out of the way so they can replace them with a Jew, but they but they won't they won't let you talk about this under any other circumstances, you know. I mean, let's.
00:45:34 I mean, for fuck's sake, the the we have a Supreme Court justice who is a DEI hire, you know, where she is. I mean, you read her her her opinions, and it's like it's like reading like a Tumblr blog. I mean, these are not high IQ people, you know. You just
Rebecca Hargraves
00:45:52 dated yourself.
Devon Stack
00:45:53 Oh yeah, that's true. Is Tumblr even like a thing?
Rebecca Hargraves
00:45:56 I don't think so.
Devon Stack
00:45:57 It's got to. It's well, my MySpace is still a thing. It's Tumblr's got to be still. No,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:01 it's not.
Devon Stack
00:46:03 Yeah, they're bringing MySpace back. Do you see that?
Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:05 No.
Devon Stack
00:46:06 Yeah, they're they're they're bringing it back. I mean, I don't think it's going to work, but like they're how how weird is that? The internet has reached a point where there's like retro websites.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:17 I know, right?
Devon Stack
00:46:19 You know, we
Rebecca Hargraves
00:46:20 should talk a little bit more about this. What Ivy League institutions used to be like, right? So it's not just the minority thing. It's that it's it's the drift in terms of everybody having to require a college education to be taken seriously. Most people didn't used to go to college, so elite educations were reserved for the best, most competent, most intelligent white people that were geared towards careers that were real, like like actual, actual jobs.
00:46:51 So in 1960, there were fewer than 1% minorities in the stu in the student populations of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and almost everybody was a white male that came from like a privileged background that was going into medicine, into law, into engineering, into into real things.
00:47:11 And then I have some statistics on the lowering of the standards in the Ivy Leagues. This one's crazy. So large credential gaps among admitted students' data. Let's see at Harvard, typical African American applicants had had admit rates over four times higher than if they had been white. So four times as many. If if they were white people with the same credentials, they they would not have gotten in. Hispanic applicants is 2.4 times higher, and this is affecting college readiness.
00:47:38 So some of this is COVID, but it's also DEI. But for calculus 170, 1% were ready or nearly ready before 2020, and recently it's fallen to 44% So the people that are coming in because of DEI standards, presumably, and I'm sure Covid has something to do with it, are not prepared for this level of university education. So in order to not wash them all out, because they can't just wash out all of these black people, right? Because then it shows people will be like, "You're racist. You're you're you're kicking out all the black people.
00:48:11 They have to lower the standard for the education. It's the only solution to that. And if you look at the data on that, it's not like like all the all the 15% of the black people are just failing out, so so you know that the classes got easier. There's not as much hard material that they're letting some cheating go, that they're letting some plagiarism go, and these people are going out with the full credentials of somebody, some white guy that went in 1960, and they're entering real jobs that affect bridge making, that are affecting surgery and and the medical care system at large.
00:48:46 Like the the people can do not understand how widespread and catastrophic DEI hiring policies in elite universities are in terms of the quality of the workforce. And we're obviously seeing that. Like how many of like bridge accidents have happened in the last 10 years?
Devon Stack
00:49:01 Well, right, and here's the problem too: is not only they have they're lowering the the actual educational standards, and they're graduating these these substandard people, who they're they're not just you know they're not just they don't just have a worse education, they're they're lower IQ, and so that their their abilities are are are also lower, but the the people who have a higher IQ who actually deserve to be in these institutions, they are no longer challenged intellectually, because if you're, it's kind of like you know
00:49:33 I did a stream years ago where there was this couple that thought that if they raised a chimpanzee with their human baby, that the chimpanzee would basically turn into a human, and it basically stunted the development of their their human baby because the human baby was you know like the it didn't raise the bar for the monkey; it lowered the bar for the human, and and that's basically what's happening at these institutions where you're not you're not challenging the the black people.
00:50:00 You're having to lower the standards, just like you said, because if if they were just if you accepted like all these black people by you know because of the stupid personality category that you added specifically to accept black people, and then they couldn't hack it, it would look bad because you would you'd have to then say oh well I guess this whole time you know we weren't being racist. You know, like we weren't just we were actually judging by the content of your of your character, and you just can't hack it in these in these institutions. So they had to lower the standards so they wouldn't have to experience that.
00:50:36 And in doing so, they they ceased to challenge the people who are IIQ who do have a a do have business being there, and not only are they they're lowering the educational standards and you know so that you don't have to like study as hard to pass tests, you don't have to learn as much, but also you don't have to compete as much. Like if you're in a in a environment where, and I've I look I've I'm sure a lot of people, especially as as the country gets more diverse, a lot of people have experienced this.
00:51:05 If you're a white guy, if you're a smart, competent white guy, and you get a job, and you're one of the only white guys, you can pretty much phone it in. You know, like you don't have to really try that hard to be like employee of the month every fucking month. You know, like to and that that's across the board. That happened to me. I can't tell you how many jobs where that was the case. Where it was like me and like the the other two white guys or whatever were the ones pulling the weight. And even then, we don't have to try that hard because we're do we're excelling so far beyond like the DEI hires that they brought on that we don't have to like really, you know, and so why would you
Rebecca Hargraves
00:51:42 bother?
Devon Stack
00:51:43 Right, right, because you're you're you're you're having to take on more work, and so it just kind of it lowers the entire the the the culture of the entire organization that you're at, where you know the output is no longer. I mean, if you're trying to, if you're if if you're working at a place where everyone was about your IQ, and and you you would have to compete a lot harder in order to perform at a level that would that would set you apart from the pack and and give you opportunities to like move up in the organization and this sort of a thing.
00:52:18 Well, I mean, not so much if you're the only white guy, you know. I worked in television, and at one point I worked at a Spanish-speaking network. Didn't speak a fucking word of Spanish, okay? And I was the only white guy in the building. Well, no, the the actual engineer who made sure that that that we stayed on the air was also white. He was
Rebecca Hargraves
00:52:40 white.
Devon Stack
00:52:40 Yeah. So, but it was us, and that was it. And I, without knowing a fucking word of Spanish, I can't. I showed up there like not really knowing, you know, how they did things. And within like a year, I was directing shows in a language I didn't understand. And and the way I could do it is I just read the because I can you know Spanish is phonetic, right? So I could read the tele. I could look at where the teleprompter was and follow along in the screen. I didn't know what the hell any of the news stories were about, but I could do it better than someone who actually knew Spanish could do it because I was the white guy, and my I was like at least two standard deviations above like everyone else in the fucking building.
00:53:17 So it's you know, and that's and I was, I was, I was phoning it in. I wasn't even trying, you know. Like I was, I was not forced to be competitive. I mean, that place could have done so much better if it was, if it was, you know, if it was a building full of people at my level, but it wasn't. There was a bunch of people that, you know, from a a race of people who didn't even invent the the technology they were using, so right,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:53:42 and and how much of this has spread to a society-wide problem? Like we'll never know how much of modern white male failure to launch has to do with just the the lack of opportunity to be at an elite institution or to get a real job or anything like that. Because I'll tell you how men operate. Because I know men. It's like if you see opportunities, you will want to engage in the competition, and if you don't, you'll just be like, "Fuck it, I'm just gonna smoke weed and and do whatever I want all the time.
00:54:13 Because it doesn't matter anyway. And the truth of that is that it doesn't really matter. You have to. If you are a white man and you want to be at these institutions, you have to operate at such a higher level your entire life. Do you? A few years back, do you remember seeing all those viral videos of those white guys with like perfect SAT scores, perfect credentials, all the extracurriculars rejected, rejected, rejected? They're just reading all their rejection letters from every major college, every every one of their preferred colleges, and it's like if you see that and you've worked hard your entire life, why wouldn't you just be like, what am what am I even doing with my?
Devon Stack
00:54:46 Yeah, if if you're gonna get stuck going to, well, yeah, if you're gonna get stuck going to like a state school anyway, it's like if it's impossible to get into, or near impossible to get into an elite educ, you know. You know, a place like Harvard or something like that. Then why would you try to get Harvard grades? You know, like if you're going to get accepted into ASU anyway, you know, like like get ASU grades. You know, and and that's that's essentially what's what has happened.
00:55:14 And unfortunately, like that is going to. I mean, that that has a butterfly effect too because these people that do get the Harvard degrees, they go on and they start and they become the CEOs, they become the the doctors, they become the surgeons, and they also they they get the positions that hire more people like themselves. I mean, look at that guy that that we were talking about, you know, Jason Arday. You know, he got this position, and what's the first thing he says?
00:55:41 He talks about how well I look. I'm up on this summit, and I look to my left and my right, and I don't see other black people in England, you know, doing doing what I'm doing. And so it's the of the utmost important that I I focus on getting more black people in in in these positions. And and that's that's not only is that what all of them are doing? That's that's not just, and not only is that socially acceptable, it's celebrated. I mean, that was that was that's a featured clip on CNBC that this look at oh look at I mean they didn't frame that as like oh that's horrible he's trying to get more niggs like in in positions of power.
00:56:16 No, they're like oh it's it's heartwarming it's inspiring. Like the the name of the video is literally the inspiring story of Jason Arday, and the first thing he says is like this this you know very racially charged shit about like how he wants to get more black people in positions of power, and that's like the whole purpose of of of his, or at least that's what what he sees is his his purpose.
00:56:39 So that that translates all across the board. It's not just him. All these other people that are getting graduated and and moving into the the private sector, or they're working for the government. Because that's the other thing too, is you have a lot of these people if they can't perform because you know you could make the argument that okay, well maybe maybe Harvard will just let these guys in, but if you have a company that that's you know sure maybe they have DEI policies or whatever, but ultimately you know they have to make money, and so to some extent they're going to reward performance.
00:57:13 I mean that first of all it's not necessarily true, but also it's super not true when it comes to government positions. Like if you work for the federal government, and the federal government's a huge employer, state government, and I don't mean just like you know working at the DMV, but people who are, as you said, like in charge of anything from building bridges to you know determining you know what what the COVID regulations are for your county, you know, and so this is this is the this is what's happening all across our country is we're we're de-widefying our society.
Rebecca Hargraves
00:57:54 Yeah, yeah, I feel bad for the youth. What are they going to do? I mean, I think that higher education is toast. They're never going to be be able to regain credibility in a meaningful way until they reverse DEI and they become white institutions again. I was doing research on this, and Grok was trying to tell me like there's no output deficiency in quality of of candidate since DEI hiring, and I'm like, there, there is no way, there is no way that the how is correct determining that criteria. Right?
00:58:28 Yeah, I was trying to get into it, and I was like, there's that's just simply impossible. They're probably doing it like because you wouldn't follow somebody into the mistakes they made at their subsequent job, right? So they're probably doing it like, did they secure this position? Are they going to these these high level jobs? And that is the measure of success. But you can't tell if they're they're not instituting DEI policies on the hiring level as well, and then the quality of the work is just dog shit.
Devon Stack
00:58:54 Right. Yeah. Well, here's the thing with with higher education, I I kind of feel like it's going to become more and more irrelevant. I mean, there used to be. I mean, really, since YouTube tutorial videos, a lot of higher education has become kind of irrelevant. Now, with AI and everything else, it's kind of like, well, what's even really the point? I mean,
Rebecca Hargraves
00:59:13 yeah,
Devon Stack
00:59:13 really, the only thing I can think of is it creates a structured environment that forces you to do it with deadlines. But I mean, if you're motivated and you want to learn about literally anything, yeah, yeah. So you could do it. The only problem is you still have a system that that would hire a black guy with a degree from Harvard because he's a black guy with a degree from Harvard and not some autistic white kid that learned how to do the exact same thing only a million times better by watching videos on YouTube and and talking to AI, you know. So that's that's going to be the issue, and I wonder if that'll ever.
00:59:53 I mean, because I kind of feel like there should just be some kind of standardized testing, you know, kind of like passing the bar. You know, like you should just have some kind of test that the state has, where if you want to qualify to be, you know, to be considered an expert in, you know, X, Y, or Z, there's some test that you go. It doesn't matter, you know, you could you could have just not have gone to school at all. If you can go down there and pass that test, you're a doctor. You know, if you if you can go down and pass that, why can't
Rebecca Hargraves
01:00:21 they do that? They do this with the GED.
Devon Stack
01:00:24 I don't know. I don't know because I feel like well, there's probably a lot of special interests that are preventing that from happening. And look, for there are certain things you could say. Well, you know, you would prefer to have like maybe hands-on training, but like you could do that with doctor stuff.
01:00:42 Like you could do like you know you you don't. It's not like they hand you a scalpel the second you pass the test, right? You have to go in there and intern or whatever, maybe for a couple years under someone who's who's already been doing this for a while. But there's no reason I can't think of a single profession where you you wouldn't be able to competently filter people out with some kind of standardized testing, where it wouldn't really matter the source of their knowledge as long as they had the knowledge.
01:01:10 And and look, and if it was real world stuff you were worried about, just do it the same way they do the driving test. You know, like there's a written test, and then they drive you around the block and make sure you don't fucking run over a bunch of people with your car. You know, and you can do the same sort of a thing, you know, like you take the test, and they have you perform open heart surgery, and if the guy doesn't die, you're a doctor, you know.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:01:29 Sucks for that guy. Yeah,
Devon Stack
01:01:31 well, you know, I wouldn't want to be that guy, but we got plenty of illegal immigrants that need surgery, so we can just or don't need surgery.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:01:39 Like, would you like to be a test case for a black DEI hire? That'll be like, no. I like that. We should have a sliding scale based on the race of your surgeon.
Devon Stack
01:01:51 Well, think of it this way: healthcare is so expensive. There probably would be people like if you needed a surgery, if there was a way to get it free, you know, like, but you had to be like, like, because I I I dated this dental hygienist once, and when she was at school, they would do like free teeth cleaning day. Like you would show up and like she clean. She was she was not a gentle person when she was cleaning my teeth.
01:02:15 But I went I went in there because she's like, I need someone to come in and be like my person that I'm cleaning the teeth of, and I was like, "It seems weird, but all right. But yeah, free, you know, free teeth cleaning, I guess. But you can do the same thing.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:02:27 Your hair done; they will charge. You can get your hair done for free if you go to a yeah school. Yeah,
Devon Stack
01:02:34 there you go. Same thing. So if you need, they always
Rebecca Hargraves
01:02:37 do a shitty job. Just always. Yeah, but yeah,
Devon Stack
01:02:40 it's better than no job. Like the way I look at it, shitty chemotherapy is better than no chemotherapy, right? Like, how hard are they gonna fuck that up? You know, really
Rebecca Hargraves
01:02:51 badly. But if you're gonna die anyway, it's like
Devon Stack
01:02:53 right. It's like you know, at least you roll the dice, you get a little bit of a chance. So I don't know. I I feel like there's ways they could do this. I feel like there's ways they could make this work without any kind of education, and they should be going after these institutions anyway. I mean, because the the amount of money that these foundations have, like the amount of money that that Harvard has, and it's all tax free. You know, we're talking like billions of dollars just sitting around tax-free, being used to undermine Western civilization a lot of times, but yeah, we can
Rebecca Hargraves
01:03:29 we can regain trust in the institutions, or is this lost forever? I know the answer to this question. I just want to hear you say it.
Devon Stack
01:03:35 No, well, it's it's demographics. The only way you'd be able to-that's the problem with all this-is none of this can be reversed until you can reverse the demographics, and you can't reverse the demographics, so it kind of doesn't really matter, right? I mean, you you really
Rebecca Hargraves
01:03:48 we could reverse the demographics, Devon. Well, it's
Devon Stack
01:03:52 it's physically possible, but it's not politically possible. I mean, there's no way you're never going to, and and you know that's the thing that people need to realize, especially we just had that election what yesterday, where Fishback got like like what 10% of the vote or some you know, and and and it's funny because all these people, all these copers were like, oh well, yeah, but but the young people voted for him.
01:04:16 It's like okay, so in 40 years, when when when they're the ones that when they're when the Zoomers are the boomers in 40 years, the Zoomers who by the way are already minority white, when they can vote, then maybe we'll get like it's like come on guys, like there's no possible way to vote or vote our way out of this, and people just need to come to terms with that. I mean, because the Democrat, you can't get non-whites to vote like for policies that are that are pro-white. Yeah, like who? I mean, that doesn't make you makes no fucking sense. It makes no sense. We're already but the government
Rebecca Hargraves
01:04:53 and the infrastructure will eventually become so anemic that it collapses in on itself, partially because of DEI. Hiring, so you know, searching for a systemic solution at this point is retarded. At some point, the infrastructure will fail, and we'll have to reinstitute some kind of white system. I mean, I I don't know how long it's going to take for that to happen, but shouldn't we be ready? I mean, systemic solutions are possible in future.
Devon Stack
01:05:17 Well, no, because here's the thing: in in if you have these collapses, it's not like only white people are going to try to fill that vacuum. You know that's the problem. Yeah, but we
Rebecca Hargraves
01:05:27 will need a natural meritocracy will emerge because there's the necessity now. We can't just do the same thing. We have to have structures that work because it's obvious when things like infrastructure fail. Everybody can see it. It's on your roads. It's on your bridges. People are dying left, right, and sideways, and so unless there is a true meritocracy that emerges, those problems will continue, and we'll be in the same situation, and it'll be obvious to everybody. So, like, but white people are more competent. It's going to have to be white people.
Devon Stack
01:05:53 Yeah, but but here's the problem. Look at South Africa. South Africa is a nightmare. Their infrastructure is going all the time. Their their fucking power they have you know power outages constantly there I mean everyone's seen the before and after photos of like you know look at this great you know neighborhood before you know they got rid of apartheid now it's like this fucking war zone looking shit and unfortunately you look at the polling data and I some south I had some South Africans get mad at me about this, but this is just what the polling data shows.
01:06:24 White people in South Africa, when you ask them about how you can change racial disparities and outcomes, white people more than any other group say that you can fix it with job opportunities and education, and and and I mean like to the tune of like almost 80% of the white people polled in this in this polling data, and but South
Rebecca Hargraves
01:06:45 Africa's isn't it 85% black?
Devon Stack
01:06:48 Yeah, but that that's my point though. Is like even in these situations where it should be super obvious to the white people that like there's a problem here and the infrastructure is going to shit because you're not in charge of it anymore, there appears to be zero, I mean not zero.
01:07:03 There's obviously there's lots of pro-white you know people in South Africa that get it. I've I've you know I've talked to a lot of them, and there's you know Oriania and stuff like that. But like a huge, a huge portion of the white South Africans are just like our stupid white boomers here, where they they they still feel like this weird guilt about apartheid.
01:07:24 They still have all this like weird internalized nonsense going on, and some of that's because it's it's genetically driven behavior. So it's not really it's not an easy thing to work around. You know, we're working against you know 10s of 1000s of years of evolution here, and my my
Rebecca Hargraves
01:07:40 point is that it would be much more difficult for whites to overtake their system and infrastructure.
Devon Stack
01:07:46 Well, in South Africa, sure, but like there's there's other examples too. You can look at a lot of these South South American countries that used to have a white, you know, or largely European ruling class that have been demographically replaced by the descendants of the slaves and by the the indigenous people there, or some kind of weird mud mix of the two, you know, like places like Brazil, and and that's the problem. Is is you in America the demographics are trending in such a way that if we get to a point, I mean, there might be areas, right?
01:08:25 There might be white areas, like if you're in a place that has somehow maintained like a substantial white majority, and then while you're there, there's like some big collapse. I mean, I guess there'd be some opportunity to to separate, but I mean, at this point, we're just you know we're kind of just like you know we're really using our imagination here. No, I understand.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:08:51 I mean, but how much of this also is is Zog influenced? Is is direct Zog propaganda? Like in the absence of that and that subversion, which I think will come to an end. People are getting Jwoke in droves. In the absence of that, don't you think that we would return to some kind of natural state of racism? Because that is the natural state of things. You're talking about these Africans being propagandized for for generations. I disagree that that fundamentally we favor an outgroup preference as white people. History does not does not show that.
Devon Stack
01:09:25 Well, here's here's what it does show though. It shows that these attitudes change exceedingly slowly, and we don't have the kind of time. Like for example, there was I was looking at attitudes in in terms of interracial marriage, right? And if you go back to 1930, pretty much 100% of white people are against interracial marriage. Okay. Fast forward to today, pretty much 100% nearly 100% of white people are are are okay with interracial marriage. And it didn't happen overnight. It was a slow trend from 1930 to nearly 100 years later.
01:10:08 It was almost like 100-year trend, and so to and that was with the the power of the entire. That was with all of Zog, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with all you know, control over all of the publications and and movies and and you know even like the government getting involved you know with the civil rights movement and everything else and and and taking away your freedom of association. So with like everything thrown at you, it still took 100 years to get people 100 in that camp to where they almost know white people have a problem with interracial marriage anymore. To get back, but these
Rebecca Hargraves
01:10:49 things can be undone to propagandize a generation. You have to be working against their their biological tendency. That's the that that necessitates the propaganda. So doesn't it stand to reason that it could revert to the norm? No, because
Devon Stack
01:11:05 no, no, because that's what I'm saying. Oh my God, you were saying no, no, no,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:11:08 bummer.
Devon Stack
01:11:08 No, no, no. Check it out, though. Here's what I'm trying to explain: white people. That's not the norm. White people have low ingredient preference biologically. Yeah. Well, I mean, pretty much. I mean that's that's the big problem. Then why
Rebecca Hargraves
01:11:22 at the turn of the century was racism just the the state of being the standard state of being in the United States? Let's talk about that.
Devon Stack
01:11:28 Because there was no proximity. It's not that people were more racist. There were tons
Rebecca Hargraves
01:11:33 of blacks here.
Devon Stack
01:11:34 Well, there were tons of blacks, but but also we gave blacks the vote like in the 1850s.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:11:43 I'm finding it more more and more difficult to defend my position here.
Devon Stack
01:11:46 No, but you know, I'm saying like the the Northerners, because you could say that their lack of proximity. I mean, they weren't they didn't they weren't around blacks. I mean, the blacks that they were around were the ones that were high IQ enough to get out, you know, to escape and move up north or whatever, and so they didn't have the same exposure to like the you know 60 IQ cotton pickers down down south, right? And also because they vote. In fact, they the Northerners said that they wanted to give blacks the right to vote in a sense to punish the Southerners and to politically disenfranchise them.
01:12:21 So even if they did have some kind of racial awareness, you know that this political objective trumped any kind of sense of racial solidarity that they they may or may not have had. But but that's my point. The Madison Grants of the world were were not in the in the majority.
01:12:40 Now that said, people were super more racist, like around the turn of the century, but not racist enough to prevent all the immigration that took place, and not-I mean-they were barely racist enough to get the Immigration Act of 1924 passed, and that lasted what, like 40 years, you know, and and that's the problem is, and and part of part of the problem too is once you let in other people, you have these other people that are working against your interests. Like it was in an environment.
01:13:15 Think of this way: in 18 in the 1850s, when we gave blacks, you know, when I say we, you know, are you know white people that lived in America? They gave blacks the vote. What is 1856 or whatever whatever year it was, and so you had that was at a time when it was almost. I mean, you had a lot of Irish that had come in at that point to you know because Lincoln you know shipped in a bunch of potato eating mix to fight this war for him, and what's that? Thought
Rebecca Hargraves
01:13:46 you loved the Irish.
Devon Stack
01:13:48 Oh yeah, no, actually, I I don't have problem with Irish. I just like making fun of them, but like the no, but like so you had you did have some Irish, but like most most for the most part it was still very much like founding stock whites, and even with a huge, you know, percentage of the population being found in stock whites, they still gave blacks the vote. Yeah, and they still opened the floodgates to all the immigration that happened around the turn of the century. And in fact, this is crazy.
01:14:13 Even when they they limited the immigration in 1924 to try to cut down on the amount of Jews and Catholics coming into the country, they had an exemption for the Western Hemisphere, which meant Mexico and you know Honduras. Like it meant that you could still have Mexicans flooding into the which did you know that you had a bunch of Mexicans come. I mean, obviously that's still going on today, but like it was. I mean, it wasn't because of the industrial revolution or you know transportation.
01:14:44 It wasn't at the same rates, but you still had Mexicans flooding in during that whole time that we had these restrictions on like Eastern Europeans and and that sort of a thing. So my point is that was with with like a. Relatively homogeneous society of whites that were, you know, you could argue much more racist than than we are today, and to think that we're going to fare any better than that with like a completely racially mixed, I mean, less than 50% white population. I
01:15:20 mean, I just think that that it's you know with that there's I don't think there's a possibility to achieve anything even resembling a ethno state for white people without just killing a lot of people, like a lot of people. I think I'm serious. I think that's what I mean. There's no political way to do that. I mean, there's no yeah, and
Rebecca Hargraves
01:15:44 I don't think we have the we've I don't think we have the grit for that anymore.
Devon Stack
01:15:48 Yeah, and and here's maybe
Rebecca Hargraves
01:15:49 maybe 100 years ago, but no more. Well,
Devon Stack
01:15:51 and maybe in 100 years because here's the other thing too is as as whites become more and more of a minority in America. And by the way, there's a lot of Europeans listening to this that are probably you know screaming, but I'm not talking about Europe at all. Like you guys are have a different paradigm out there, but like in terms of America, there could come a time when you know whites are because look, whites will be are already we're a hated majority. Well, we're hated, you know.
01:16:23 Basically, I think we're a minority in America already, just barely. But so we'll, as we're become more and more of a minority, we'll become more and more hated, and we'll become more and more attacked violently and politically in every other way. And white people will tribe up, and just because by by virtue of of whites with low in group preference interbreeding with non whites and having, yeah, they'll cease to be white.
01:16:49 So the only people that'll still be white, say, like in America in 200 years, are people that come from a genetic line of people that only bred with other white people. You know, so you're going to have a much higher in group preference for that batch of whites, because anyone that had a low in group preference would have, you know, they're all mulattoes now. So, so we just
Rebecca Hargraves
01:17:09 have to retreat to our white white fiefdoms and and just try to enjoy our daily lives. Is that what you're telling me? That is so bleak.
Devon Stack
01:17:16 I'm not saying retreat, but I'm saying like fortify and start building that dynasty up and start start preparing. You
Rebecca Hargraves
01:17:24 have to retreat to fortify in this situation.
Devon Stack
01:17:28 Well, I mean, retreat makes you're not going to like
Rebecca Hargraves
01:17:31 move to New York or something. No,
Devon Stack
01:17:32 well, that's true. I wouldn't. I I I think that there could be circumstances where that would work, but I mean, for most people, you're not going to want to live in in the cities. You're going to want to live somewhere that's separated racially as much as you already can, and that's not any American city. Every American, I mean, you you want to see the worst that demographics America has to offer, go to a major city. Yeah.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:17:58 Oh, it was so bad when I went to New York. Like there were areas of the Lower East Side where it was like four to one minorities.
Devon Stack
01:18:04 Yeah, I've I've I've never been to an American city where I even saw like large groups of white people. You know, like it doesn't matter. It used to be. I mean, you can look at the numbers. You know, there there used to be metropolises is as recently as the 1980s, where they weren't. It wasn't like you know 100% white by any means, but it was like 80 80% Like I think even like like Phoenix, I think was like in in the in the 80s. Phoenix of all places was like close to. Let me double check that actually, because I want to say it was like 85% white, and there's no fucking way it's even 50% now. Well,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:18:46 Seattle is still pretty white. Let me see, Seattle racial
Devon Stack
01:18:49 still. Even with I would think with Seattle, with all the tech companies, they probably bring it
Rebecca Hargraves
01:18:53 60% white. Wow.
Devon Stack
01:18:55 Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like it's all
Rebecca Hargraves
01:18:57 Asians, almost 20%
Devon Stack
01:18:59 Yeah. Well, yeah, and Asians exactly. Well, just look at what's mostly
Rebecca Hargraves
01:19:03 white and Asian. Yeah,
Devon Stack
01:19:04 look at what's happened to Canada in just a few decades. You know. Let's see in Phoenix in 1980 versus Today and the only reason why the whitest
Rebecca Hargraves
01:19:33 cities are all sub 90%
Devon Stack
01:19:37 Well, it's funny. The reason I picked Phoenix is when I was a kid. Well, a late teen. I was thinking about going to Phoenix to go to art school, and they the I got like this video that was like advertising the campus and everything, and I remember like everyone in the video being white, you know, and and just like, and then I went. Phoenix, oh, I don't know, like 10 years ago, and like nobody was white. Like everyone was
Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:06 Mexican.
Devon Stack
01:20:08 Yeah, in fact, you know, you had like billboards in Spanish. You know, you had you turn on the radio, like 50% of the the radio stations were in Spanish. You know, I mean, that's a big change in a relatively short period of time. It's still doing the the stupid search here. Come on!
Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:29 Oh, that's okay. I could literally hear a cricket in your background.
Devon Stack
01:20:35 No, you can't. Can you?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:36 I can. I I 100% can. I've been hearing it the whole stream.
Devon Stack
01:20:40 Ah, there's. Can you guys hear
Rebecca Hargraves
01:20:41 that? Am I hallucinating?
Devon Stack
01:20:43 There's definitely crickets out here. Well, you're you actually hear something that they that they don't. Like you hear my raw microphone just because like, so even when I mute it to cough, like you still hear me cough. The audience the audience doesn't hear it though. So here we are. Yeah, this this is this is the change I'm talking about. I was a little. I overestimated the white people in 1980. 1980, it was 78% white, and 2023, it's 40% white.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:21:15 Seriously,
Devon Stack
01:21:18 seriously,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:21:20 that is terrible. Ha! Yeah, they can hear the crickets. Ha ha.
Devon Stack
01:21:28 Can they hear Churro? I think I just heard him meow.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:21:31 Meow.
Devon Stack
01:21:32 Man, he's he wants to. I'm not letting him in because he want he wants he's being lazy. He wants me to let him in and then let him out the front door instead of him going through his little hole that in the wall that because he's a lazy fat bitch, but no, but like wait, you
Rebecca Hargraves
01:21:45 just have a hole. You just have a cat hole in your wall.
Devon Stack
01:21:48 No, it's an actual cat flap, but he has to climb up on the thing to get to it, and he's a lazy piece of shit. So
Rebecca Hargraves
01:21:54 in my mind, it was just like I just like you know
Devon Stack
01:21:58 jackhammered a hole in the wall, and it's like here you go, there's your hole, churro. You can tunnel in the hole.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:22:04 Churro.
Devon Stack
01:22:06 Yeah, yeah, the the churro slot, but uh, but no, this is the kind of demographic change that's in place in in most American cities. Um, it's not just you know like like Las Vegas is another city like that? I'm like just from in my lifetime. I remember in high school, we would because I was in Albuquerque, and it was like five six hour drive to go up to Las Vegas, and they weren't exactly on top of checking ID IDs back then.
01:22:34 You know, like you could you could go up there and gamble and and drink when you weren't 21, but you'd go there and you know most of the people like the the the dealers were white like you'd have like you know the odd non-white or whatever you go there now it's like jungle Asians it's just all jungle Asians and and just mystery meat people like they don't even have like the like the cocktail waitresses are aren't even like you know hot eight or even like you know once hot aging white lady you know sluttily dressed white ladies.
01:23:10 They're also jungle Asians or or some kind of like pregnant Mexican chick or you know whatever. It's bad. Like it's really fucking bad. I was watching this YouTube video. I've never been on a cruise, but I was watching this YouTube video. This guy was like reviewing cruises, and there wasn't a single motherfucker that worked on that boat that was white. Like nobody. Yeah. Like and and he was talking about how they they're they're only H 1b visa people. So like these cruise lines, they hire a bunch of people, bring them on their boat.
01:23:40 All the in fact the service industry. This is part of why Trump sucks for this topic in particular because his whole you know he runs hotels. His whole background is taking advantage of these programs, and all of his little hotel owning buddies are the same way. So casinos bringing all these people, they pay him you know next to nothing, and you know, make it so that all the white people that live in Las Vegas, where they used to be able to make a living, you know, dealing cards, are now just getting high on meth all day instead of actually having some kind of you know making a living out there. So yeah, that's the problem.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:24:20 We talked about what happens when when middle class people can't ascend to elite classes to high to upper middle class to to high class status, but the worst detriment to society comes from lower middle class people going white people going into the low class, and people are not talking about that enough. Just that situation that you described with the car dealers and the meth,
Devon Stack
01:24:41 right?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:24:42 And you know, people are getting displaced through through all of the socio economic rungs. White people are. It's just so it's so damaging to society. Yeah,
Devon Stack
01:24:56 no, and that's that's the problem is when you have. All the and and not only that, it's even entry level jobs. So if you have like when I was a teenager, right? My first job, like I I was a paper boy. I was a substitute paper boy. My my brother and I would when this kid wanted to like take a a week off or whatever, would take over his paper out, and we would just so
Rebecca Hargraves
01:25:18 wholesome.
Devon Stack
01:25:19 Well, but that's what you-that was-that was even available back then. Even jobs like that. Well, I don't know. People don't really get the newspaper anymore, so maybe that's not even a job. But I-I remember just a few years ago, I was-I was up really late at night, so it was now early in the morning, and I saw this this old Mexican guy was the paper boy. He was like in driving around some beat up old fucking like rapey looking van, you know, chucking papers out the window. And I remember thinking like, you know, this used to be like white white 12 year olds riding their bikes,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:25:51 yeah,
Devon Stack
01:25:52 and now it's some fucking Mexican guy. And same thing with like my first you know actual job. I worked fast food, you know, like it was with a bunch of other like white teenagers, you know, and so it was a bunch of white call or high school kids, you know, making fast food all day, and you go to any fast food restaurant now, and that's not that's not what you see, and so you you if you have lower class, I mean that's that's good job experience for white kids that need to make extra money to you know if they don't have access to money for college, how are they going to get money for college if they because they're not going to get grants because all that's based a lot of that a lot of that's based on race, and you're not going to be able to get a job because you're up against like some H 1b jungle Asian or Indian or whoever, right?
01:26:43 And so, yeah, that's my point. Is this the the butterfly effect of what's going on with the not what where the demographics are going, where they are already, is so powerful that there's it just underscores there's no political path to get around this. There's just there. There's already too fucking many of them here. So
Rebecca Hargraves
01:27:08 on that note, that's the black box.
Devon Stack
01:27:10 Yeah, let's do
Rebecca Hargraves
01:27:11 it. That is the black pill. That's the black
Devon Stack
01:27:13 pill for today. All right. You want me to go first?
Rebecca Hargraves
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Devon Stack
01:27:20 Oh, that's right.
Rebecca Hargraves
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Devon Stack
01:28:30 There you go. There you go.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:28:32 I'll I'll go first on the supers because I just got an interesting one that came through PayPal. Actually, this is from Isaac. And if you want to donate on PayPal, the links are in the description below. Agree that we must not allow any African migration to our country, but I hope Devon does and can respect the majority of sables, as I call our early American ancestor.
01:28:53 Black people are worthy, and they get killed in the streets by those voted in by small hats. Thanks. Oh, I totally disagree. Yeah, there's there's nothing that we can, like Devon mentioned, there's nothing that we can do about it. But um, they're drastically reducing our quality of life right now. So so no, like I I don't really care. Like I'm sorry that Jews brought you here, but I don't want you here. I'm sorry.
Devon Stack
01:29:20 Yeah, and and look, I would I would be I mean look, this is all pine. None of this is going to happen. So when people get upset about this, it's like why are you upset? Like this is all. It doesn't matter. Like I'm, unless like somehow I become emperor tomorrow, which I guess that'd be awesome, but it's never going to fucking happen. Yeah, you don't have anything to worry about.
01:29:38 But in the in the you know bizarro world. reality where I am emperor. I'd be, I'd be, you know, I'd maybe give you guys something. You know, I'd be like, hey, you know, you can have Florida or something. I don't know. Just something I don't want. You know.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:29:53 Yeah. Fine. Okay. That's fine. But like Indiana, Georgia, Mississippi. Well,
Devon Stack
01:29:58 I'd prefer to separate us, but with another. But you know, maybe the compromise is he. I do art of the deal. I'd I'd come into it saying, "No, you're all going to Liberia, and by the end of the negotiation, you'd feel like you won because you got Florida or something like that.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:12 No, I won Florida. That's not even the worst state.
Devon Stack
01:30:17 Florida's pretty bad. When's the last time you went to Florida. Have you been to Miami Beach?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:23 No, I've always wanted to go to Miami.
Devon Stack
01:30:26 I don't think you want to go to Miami. If you haven't been to Miami, you don't want to go to Miami. Like I, I, I. Key
Rebecca Hargraves
01:30:34 West is awesome, and they there's there are beautiful beaches in Florida. Like I wouldn't move there because I'm heat intolerant, but Florida has a lot to offer. It's not like Mississippi that has nothing to offer.
Devon Stack
01:30:47 Well, look, Florida would be awesome if it wasn't for the demographics. Like there was that. I mean, I did a I did a stream on this black pastor in Florida that was, you know, obviously a criminal and murderer because he's black. And in in that video, I found this this like documentary footage from I want to say like the 1980s, and they were talking about how like the voiceover in this 1980s documentary was like just a couple of decades ago, black people weren't even allowed on this beach, and I was like,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:31:22 "What?
Devon Stack
01:31:23 God damn it! Like, why do I? What? Yeah, yeah. You had whites-only beaches like a couple decades ago in Florida. Why? Why would you change that? Because I my I haven't spent a lot of time in Florida, but the time that I did spend there was in Miami, and I went to the beach because I wanted to check it out because you know it was a totally different.
01:31:46 My my beach experience was mostly like Northern California, and I swear to God, it was it was like those you know those videos you see when it's like oh the spring breakers, which is like just code word for like half naked nigs, you know it was like that's what it was. It was just like morbidly obese black women wearing like next to nothing, and just like almost no white people. It was just like loud, obnoxious, smelly nastiness, and there was like some rap concert going. Like it was just bad. Like I just couldn't believe that this was America. I felt like I was in some kind of nightmare version of America that that I wake up in every morning, but anyway, that I I I I don't know. I'd give them. I'd maybe give them Florida. What else we
Rebecca Hargraves
01:32:29 got? Fine, whatever. That's that's a fine compromise. All right. That's from Julian. Thanks for all you do. Thank you, Julian. All right. I'm gonna go over to Supers now. What do we have? Ryan Hess said, "Favorite podcast duo. Hope you're both doing well. I am doing well. Thank you for that, Ryan. I really appreciate it. Josh Ford, love the important work you do with Cameron. The show with Devon is pure entertainment. Retreated retreated to Boise to ride out the reset. Thank you for those of you that are unaware.
01:32:59 I do a show with Cameron MacGregor on Thursdays at 4p.m. Pacific Standard Time called "The Reset. We're going to have an excellent episode tomorrow. Justin Wright says, "Here are some shekels for you, Rebecca. Thank you. Big dono for from Lori, my personal friend Lori. September fun, fun. Thank you so much, Lori. I really appreciate it. Hi, I hope to see you this week.
01:33:19 Don Browning sent two big donuts. I hear that some of mr. R. Day's fabricated illnesses were identical to those suffered by characters in *Neighbors* and *Home and Away* his favorite Australian soap operas. What? It's not even that obscure. I mean, I've never watched those. That's a weird cut, though. Oh yeah, I forgot another one.
Devon Stack
01:33:35 He claimed to be in a TV show that hadn't aired since before he was born. I forgot about that one. That was another one of his lies.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:33:46 What an asshole. She said another one of our great institutions is being trashed. NHS, RNLI, National Trust, and now universities delegitimizing truth via study. It's intentional, of course. Of course, it is intentional. Yes, and now we all have to have to pay. Vincent Pendragon says we need to make a guide and list any of the trades and specialist skills that can be self-taught or learned without going to these fallen schools. You know, I know a lot of people that are proficient in a lot of things, and most of them are self-taught. You can learn anything from YouTube, truly. If you have a willingness and the attention span to learn, you can you could learn how to perform open heart surgery on YouTube.
Devon Stack
01:34:31 I I taught myself 100% Like I didn't go to school for 3d animation, and I was a 3d animator doing work for major corporations just 100% from watching YouTube tutorials.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:34:47 Yeah, yep. Okay, we're good over here.
Devon Stack
01:34:51 All right, let's take a look here. All right, we got the Supreme Rabbi Satan says. I better not catch you, racist going. I'm at the Germania Park Oktoberfest this weekend. Germania Park, where's that? I feel like I should know where that's at. That sounds like some. I feel like that's. I mean, it's probably not, but I feel like that sounds like something that's in Maryland for some reason. All right, then we got Purple Capment says Rebecca, does Devon look like Michael McDonald of the Doobie Brothers with shorter hair? That's how I imagine him.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:30 Michael, I don't know. I don't know what
Devon Stack
01:35:33 that looks like. Let me see.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:35 No, he looks nothing like that.
Devon Stack
01:35:38 Well, hold on. When he was younger, maybe I'm gonna see. Only the picture popped up. He's an old man.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:47 When he was younger, there it could be said that there are some similarities. I suppose.
Devon Stack
01:35:52 Is there? I don't know. He he's got like. I don't know. I'm not. No.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:35:59 No.
Devon Stack
01:35:59 No. I'm gonna say no on that one. All right, then we got Purple Capment says Devon. I'm thinking it would be great if someone started dating website or dating or started a I think he meant a dating website based on genetics. Say that you are 90% Scottish, 10% English, and it matches you up with somebody with that DNA, that's not a bad idea. I wonder because there is like an optimal genetic difference, dude.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:36:28 Online dating, no, just don't don't do it. There are unaccounted for factors in online dating. I know that people are having a hard time meeting each other, but you gotta you gotta meet in person to the best of your ability.
Devon Stack
01:36:40 That is true, but but I would just say like like if you were going to do like a service that did require DNA testing, I bet that you would have a higher than placebo effect success rate by matching genetically. You know, Gorilla Hand says, "What do you guys think of these women supporting that witch who strangled her three children?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:37:08 Yeah, I mean, she-I think she did have postpartum psychosis, but I'm not really sure how much it matters.
Devon Stack
01:37:15 So I only-I-I know what he's talking about, but I don't know any of the details. What's the what's the backstory?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:37:22 She she had postpartum psychosis, which I believe is real. It's incredibly rare; people do get it. And she murdered three children and then tried to jump out the window and paralyzed herself from the the waist down. Now, the reason I think that it is real is she had a long history of trying to get help. She was like, you would not believe the list of of pharmacological agents that she was under the influence of. So yeah, I think she definitely did have postpartum psychosis.
01:37:54 But it's it's like all things in terms of mental illness and motivation. Like the outcome was still that she killed her, her three children. So like there has to be some kind of punishment there, right? Well, I would say it's a horribly sad story. She goes in the pit, I think.
Devon Stack
01:38:14 Yeah, she goes in the pit because we don't need those genes floating around. You know, I mean, she should she shouldn't have more kids, right? So, I mean, what else? And what's what would be the point of keeping her alive?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:26 Sterilization. I think that an appropriate response would be forced sterilization and then lifetime commitment to like a really shitty mental health facility.
Devon Stack
01:38:35 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We've been over this. There's no such thing as a benefit to society, by keeping people locked up indefinitely.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:44 Okay, Pitt, fine, Pitt. Fire,
Devon Stack
01:38:46 fire, incineration is what we're talking about. Okay,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:38:48 no, no, no, no, no, no.
Devon Stack
01:38:50 We'll have her incinerated after you know, and that just takes care of the problem. Then Gorilla Hand says she is a literal witch. I don't buy any of this postpartum bullshit. Sounds like the Boomers midlife crisis.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:07 I don't know. She had a longstanding history of like discussing with mental health professionals that she was dealing with all these things, and their solution to it was just like go take care of your kids, and here's an additional drug. Do I think that she's morally not at fault. No, of course she
Devon Stack
01:39:23 is. I think those those mental health professionals should have a button in their chair that they push, and then she just goes in the pit and they go take her kids. They say, "Mommy's not coming home. She she was incinerated. All right, we got anomalous Canard says replay gang checking in because subscribe star backers don't get enough love. I know you guys really
Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:44 don't. Thank you. Please follow us on subscribe star. We get to keep the most earnings from subscribe star. So those links are also in the description below. We don't shill our stuff enough, and then we're like, we're poor.
Devon Stack
01:39:57 Yeah,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:39:58 we need to shill harder.
Devon Stack
01:39:59 We need to make. Make merch and stuff too. I'll get on that this week. I keep saying that. I say it every week. It never happens. All right. Then we got Snowy Jewels says replay gang here. Looks like I didn't get charged for one of my comments last week, so I'm sending one or sending some more cash for you guys. Looking forward to listening to and watching this episode later.
01:40:23 Thank you, appreciate that. Then we got Gorilla Hands again. Says, has anyone heard from Negro Spritzer from the Rumble Chats? That's true. He hasn't been around a long time. That is true. I wonder if I wonder if he's if he finally had an aneurysm. He always sounded like he was on the edge, so hopefully he's okay. Then we got Drawfork says, if I'm not mistaken, homicide is more common than suicide with male naggers, unlike with white men who are more likely to feel remorse or empathy. Wait, so are men white men are more likely to commit suicide than homicide? I guess that would make sense. Surely,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:41:05 yeah,
Devon Stack
01:41:07 yeah, that probably makes sense. Let's see here. Then we got Astralis 725 Nairobi monkeys says. So in essence, Jews can massage the situation and language to meet their scammy rules. Understood? Yeah. Well, it's like I said. They they will they'll let you indulge in race realism if it helps their agenda. And bottom line, well, they'll let you indulge in anything. They'll let you indulge in outright you know, super racism. If if it's against like the Palestinians or something like that,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:41:46 yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Devon Stack
01:41:48 We got Denise the Celt says Coffness did not write the initial article, and an English journalist by the name of Jack Grove did, but it was ignored. No one paid attention to it until Jew Kafnis jumped on it for spite.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:42:04 Seriously, did you know that?
Devon Stack
01:42:06 I didn't know that. I didn't come across anything like that, but I I'd believe it. The interview that I heard with Coughness was he said that he had started his Substack and then a whistleblower had contacted him, and that's why he wrote the article. But I, I mean, he's also a Jew, so can't really believe most of what he says. Then Denise the Celt says our day's real patrons were the autist, or I'm sorry, the autism expert Sir Simon Baron Cohen. Early life check not needed, and Lord Simon Wooley, a race grifter's race grifter.
01:42:46 Well, there you go. Maybe that's that explains why he was able to operate for so long without. I mean, because Coens are like. Well, I'm guessing if you're a sir on top of that, if your name's Sir, I don't know who Sir Simon Baron Cohen is, but my guess is he, you know, he's somewhat important across the pond there. Very interesting. Then we got Gorilla Hand says we should be living healthy into our 80s and 90s, and people living on the moon exploring our solar system. But instead of that, we have idiocracy.
01:43:22 Exactly. That is true. That is true. All right. Then we got. Let's see here. Denise the Celt says Baron Cohen, the Autism World expert, must have known our day was lying. I hate the simpering, grinning, eyelined, vaselined face of that congoid. I like that. I like that word. And check out Wooly, the worst race hustler ever. I've heard the name, but I can't. I haven't. I've heard the name Simon Wooley. Let me bring. Should we do a picture of him? Let's see. Simon Wooley. Remember, I haven't.
01:44:09 This guy doesn't look like how I thought he would look. He just looks like a a random nig. I was picturing like some dread dread locked up nig, and he's just like some nig with like a suit on. He looks he looks like a a British Al Sharpton kind of. Oh, gross! Like a little bit. Yeah. All right. Then we got Gorilla Hands says we should be living healthy. Oh, we already did that one. Did that one? Evan 626 says Stryker's latest Substack stream makes the point that a gentle a gentile had the goods on Arve, but was intimidated into silence. Then Arde signed a pro Palestine petition. And Kafnis was allowed to expose him. Well, that would make sense.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:45:03 That does make sense.
Devon Stack
01:45:07 That would fall in line with what we saw previously with Gay, whatever. What was her first name? Over at Harvard.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:45:18 I want to say Charlene. Hold on. Duh. I want to say clotting, clotting, clotting,
Devon Stack
01:45:27 getting you. There you go. So that would, yeah, that would make sense. All right, then we got Donald Duck Tater says, "How would you try to convince a recent high school graduate to just avoid the Jewish Credentialization debt farm and carve out a independent path. Well, it depends on what they want to do because if there are unfortunately there are some jobs where if I mean if you yeah if they want to be an
Rebecca Hargraves
01:45:55 engineer then it's unavoidable
Devon Stack
01:45:56 right if you want to be a surgeon or something or a lawyer I mean there's certain things you you just you have to play the stupid game, but if you want to do anything related to programming, art, or if you're if you're like if you're creating something usually like almost no matter what it is, if you're creating something, you can be self-taught as long as you have a portfolio full of that thing that you're going to be creating that you can show to an employer. You know.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:46:27 Yeah, exactly.
Devon Stack
01:46:30 All right. Then we got Churro's Great Adventures says book when soon, soon. I'm I'm I'm having to figure something out with that, but soon, very soon. All right, then we got Real Starfish Prime says, "I spent the last week in the northern part of upper of the Upper Midwest. I saw white people doing the jobs that white people won't do: concrete, roofing, lawn care, housekeeping, etc. Make it make sense. The northern part of Upper Midwest. What what state? What the hell? What would that be?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:07 I need to look at a map. My sense of geography is abysmal.
Devon Stack
01:47:10 Well, I want to say like Illinois, maybe like rural Illinois. I mean, not Chicago, obviously. Would that count? Would that qualify as northern Minnesota,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:20 Wisconsin, Michigan, and parts of Iowa and the Dakotas.
Devon Stack
01:47:24 Oh, okay. Let's see. That's more west then.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:47:27 Okay.
Devon Stack
01:47:28 Well, I guess it depends there too, right? Because Michigan, you got Detroit. I mean, good. I don't. I don't know if Detroit's like, yeah, it's Detroit's been fucked for a long time, and then same thing with, I mean, Wisconsin and all those northern states now have a bunch of Africans and and whatnot. So rural, you know, rural America still has. I mean, that where I'm at now, it's almost 100% white. There's there's there's definitely some Mexicans out here too, but I would say the vast majority of even just like you know manual labor, handyman type stuff is is all white people where I'm at still.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:09 Yeah.
Devon Stack
01:48:11 Let's see here. Yo, Jimbo Rockford says, "Here's money by things. Well, I appreciate that.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:16 Thank you.
Devon Stack
01:48:19 And then we got Professor Chaos says, "Here's some shekels, Dev. Also, Rebecca, do you know of any nice places to live in Idaho?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:48:29 Well, I love Coeur d'Alene. Sandpoint is really nice. Bonners Ferry is really nice. I like Boise. That's kind of an unpopular opinion. They do have some problems there, but and then I've heard that well, Hope is really nice, and I've also heard good things about salmon, but I've never been there. Salmon's really small.
Devon Stack
01:48:54 It's a good, it's a delicious fish. All right, then we got herp derp with a gigantic dono.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:02 Ah, thank you.
Devon Stack
01:49:04 Herb Derp says, Rebecca, I strongly disagree on your claim that neotiny. What is that? I don't know what that is.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:14 Neoteny.
Devon Stack
01:49:15 Neoteny. When your eyes are
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:16 really far apart.
Devon Stack
01:49:18 Ah, that's right. Okay, is a good thing, at least on the eyes and forehead. Makes me think of tran Tranim. I don't know what Tranim is either. T R A N I M E Tranim or Tranim
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:38 transgender anime Tranime. Oh, yeah.
Devon Stack
01:49:42 I was thinking like it was like some kind of like drug or something. All right.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:48 I know.
Devon Stack
01:49:50 Curious to know your opinion on long fingernails replay gang.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:49:56 I typically have long fingernails. I don't know. I think it anything that makes a woman's fingers look longer, I think, is sexy, but it's very impractical. So I keep them at a reasonable length. Super long fingernails, I find grotesque. Do you even hang in on this?
Devon Stack
01:50:13 Do you use like the the Lee press on nails? Is that still a thing?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:17 No, it's my natural nails.
Devon Stack
01:50:20 Do you do you ever use like
Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:21 monster?
Devon Stack
01:50:22 Do you ever use the fake nails? You ever like 3d print your nails?
Rebecca Hargraves
01:50:28 I have used fake nails before. I I I don't. It's just too much of a pain in the ass.
Devon Stack
01:50:33 My mom used to get fake nails. She'd get fake nails, and she'd pay all this money to like have these fake nails glued to her fucking hands. And I always thought it was stupid. What are you gonna do? All right, then we got. Well, thank you very much, Herp Derp. Very generous, and yes, you're right about the the white apart eyes, super retarded. No, Rebecca is is definitely wrong about that. Night Trang says, "Looking bit, looking good, big nose, or nig nose rather.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:51:09 It's not that bad. God,
Devon Stack
01:51:12 just look like you've walked into the door a couple times and punched in the face a little bit. We got reunitate says, are there any mods in this chat? Need one here. I muted the whoever was doing that, so I think I fixed that problem. Then we had Tomohawk says, I've had an incredibly shitty day. Unfortunately, or no, fortunately rather, I have Devon to make me feel even worse. Thank you both for all that you do. Have a wonderful evening. Well, glad I can help. Tomahawk.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:51:49 Oh, I'm sorry.
Devon Stack
01:51:52 Oh, and then we got Rabbi Baby Foreskin Eater says, "Rebecca, Miami is a shithole. Went on a carnival cruise out out there 10 years ago, before everyone knew what that meant. Spring break weekend, big mistake. I did not feel culturally enriched. Yeah.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:52:11 Okay, I I know.
Devon Stack
01:52:13 Well, I'll tell you. And in fact, when I went there, it was almost 10 years ago now. That I was just thinking about that. Like it's been a long time, so it's got to be way worse now. Because I'm pretty sure I was there like around 2017, thereabouts, and it was horrible. Like it was just horrible. All right, then we got. Let's see here. Scroll, scroll, scroll. Social Observer says, "What are your thoughts on the divide of the JQ right? I don't agree with Fuentes saying that the dissident right are all conspiracy sloptards.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:53:02 Um. What divide? What do you think they mean?
Devon Stack
01:53:05 I think what he's getting at is there are people, for example, on if you look at on X, there are the people that, well, I guess the people that would qual that some people would call low IQ anti-Semites, and then the high IQ anti-Semites. My my take on that is: look, obviously there's going to be people that think everything's the Jews, or they they lean way too hard into every conspiracy theory.
01:53:36 I don't see how that's like a huge problem. People will make the argument, no, but they have to only do legitimate criticisms of our enemy. Otherwise, we look stupid. It's like, like it fucking matters, dude. It doesn't fucking matter. I'd rather have people hate my enemies for crazy reasons than than not hate them. And you know, like I don't see how it's like this big problem.
01:53:59 It's not like we're. It's not like we're like we're we're debating, you know, like other like it's not they they people get take it too seriously. They think that like the intellectual debate going on on Twitter is somehow reflective of of some kind of action that will take place later. Like if oh if we unless we're like super like by the book intellectually honest about everything, then we won't get that anti-Semitism bill that we're we're gonna that we all are gonna get. That's never gonna happen.
01:54:26 Like, oh yeah, we'll never we'll we got to get rid of these low IQ anti-Semites, or we'll never be able to you know expel the Jews. It's like, come on, really? Like, is that we think it's gonna happen? Like, they're they're the ones getting in the way of expelling the Jews. Like, come on, you know, like what? What's the what's the problem here? And so I think a lot.
01:54:45 And and by the way, I think that people use that excuse, in fact, to run cover for Jews. There are people that that try to make it sound as if criticism of Jews is lowbrow, just. Generally, and and and people like Nick like to praise Jews, and in fact, his producer is a Jew, and his best friend is Jewish, and he's part Jewish himself apparently. So that's the last person I'd be listening to when it comes to Jews. Let's see here. Then we got scroll, scroll, scroll. That's it. Over wait, hold on.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:55:28 Let me reload over here too. Then
Devon Stack
01:55:30 we got Love and Division says, when Outlaws comes on, I open OBS so I can get Rebecca on full screen. I mute the stream and put some romantic music on in the background. Unfortunately, I missed out on Devon's production value and work. By the time the stream is over, I have no idea what they were talking about. Just kidding. So that's Love and Division, creeping
Rebecca Hargraves
01:55:56 Division,
Devon Stack
01:55:57 creeping on on Rebecca. Apparently,
Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:01 I have one more over here, Tuffy Banana. Something tells me this could be a recurring segment. You're both great. Which segment? What segment? What are? I don't know what you're talking about, Tuffy.
Devon Stack
01:56:13 Are there going to be more suicidal autistic niggs? Because I sure hope so. I could get used to that.
Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:20 We're good over here.
Devon Stack
01:56:22 I think we're good over here. All right. Thank you
Rebecca Hargraves
01:56:25 guys so much for watching. This is Outlaws. Remember to watch my stream with Kevin McGregor on Thursdays at 4p.m. Pacific Standard Time. If you are not sub to me on YouTube, I am blonde in the belly of the beast. You can find me on Twitter at blonds underscore tweets. Find me on Rumble at blonde beasts. Find me on Instagram at Blonde Beast One. I think that's all the stuff.
Devon Stack
01:56:46 Yeah, and I will be here same bat channel, different time Saturday 10 p.m. Pacific time for the insomnia stream as always. And you can follow me at black underscore pilled on X, and blackpilled.com will take you to the Odysee channel if you are not good at remembering things. So I might I might switch that to Rumble, but but Odyssey is still alive and kicking. So we'll I have it parked there anyway. Hope you guys have a good rest of your week. We'll check you next time, and I gotta hit the button that makes us not be on the air. Hang on.